hake Posted May 31, 2021 ID:1460560 Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) I have discovered that MBAE 1.13 causes Windows XP SP3 to hang randomly, very occasionally but without warning. There is no obvious pattern with this behaviour. I regularly use MS Word 2003 on XP but rarely use Excel 2003 so when I recently did need to use it I found that it would immediately crash (as also did MS Publisher 2000). Word 2003 always runs without problems. After some floundering around, I ended up substituting MBAE 1.12.1.90 for the lastest MBAE version and those MS applications then ran properly and XP also stopped hanging. I only mention this as feedback on very good software whose latest incarnations have obviously moved beyond being suitable for use on a very old OS., i.e. Windows XP. I guess that this also applies to equally ancient applications. Edited May 31, 2021 by hake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff pbust Posted May 31, 2021 Staff ID:1460573 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Hey hake, long time no talk. Please try the latest build we're creating and let me know if it improves the situation: https://malwarebytes.box.com/s/c03ui7nw60sxfzc0ip299kzxf6pezacu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hake Posted May 31, 2021 Author ID:1460598 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Hi Pedro. I attempted installation of MBAE 1.13.1.384 but the installer now does a check on the host OS and Windows XP failed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff pbust Posted May 31, 2021 Staff ID:1460607 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Right, that might be due to MSFT's deprecation of SHA2 digital signatures and new signing requirements. I'll post a new installer in the next few days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff pbust Posted May 31, 2021 Staff ID:1460639 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Try this one please: https://malwarebytes.box.com/s/gqzmc4l63nj8r3qq2fccawkussrrqpnj Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hake Posted June 1, 2021 Author ID:1460867 Share Posted June 1, 2021 I don't know how I managed to download the MBAE 1.13.1.384 setup file first time. I cannot logon to either the Malwarebytes person account or the box.com account. I guess that my Malwarebytes forum credentials are different. I do not have a box.com account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1PW Posted June 1, 2021 ID:1460869 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Hello @pbust: It appears as if a modification is required to further allow the download. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hake Posted June 2, 2021 Author ID:1460938 Share Posted June 2, 2021 I have found that the first link given to me for the download of the MBAE 1.13.1.384 now tells me that it no longer works. Pedro asked me to try this version of MBAE with XP. I am unable to do this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff pbust Posted June 2, 2021 Staff ID:1460968 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Sorry, my bad. Try again: https://malwarebytes.box.com/s/gqzmc4l63nj8r3qq2fccawkussrrqpnj Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCharlie Posted June 2, 2021 ID:1461032 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Just a side note.....I have a XP Pro computer and I'm using version 1.13.304 with no problems. From what I remember I used Revo Uninstaller to remove all traces of old versions before I installed the new version. MrC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff pbust Posted June 2, 2021 Staff ID:1461034 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) Good practice. We've noticed what "could be" corrupt config files after upgrades, but no concrete evidence yet. If you experience that, please let me know. Edit to clarify: it's just a hypothesis at the time, and only for a small segment corner-case users. Edited June 2, 2021 by pbust Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hake Posted June 2, 2021 Author ID:1461102 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Thanks Pedro. Got it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hake Posted June 2, 2021 Author ID:1461107 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Same outcome with MBAE 1.13.1.387 setup as with MBAE 1.13.1.384 setup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porthos Posted June 2, 2021 ID:1461117 Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) On 5/31/2021 at 7:24 AM, pbust said: that might be due to MSFT's deprecation of SHA2 digital signatures and new signing requirements. That is what the error is about. I do not know if it is available for XP. All I saw in the MS catalog is for Windows 7. Edited June 2, 2021 by Porthos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin AdvancedSetup Posted June 2, 2021 Root Admin ID:1461126 Share Posted June 2, 2021 Does not apply to Windows XP Will have to wait for @pbust as Windows XP requires special builds to continue to support it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff pbust Posted June 3, 2021 Staff ID:1461235 Share Posted June 3, 2021 I wonder what MSFT is doing with all those super large enterprises which have paid it millions to continue supporting XP. Maybe there's a hotfix for them, just not available publicly. Lemme discuss internally with the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hake Posted June 3, 2021 Author ID:1461255 Share Posted June 3, 2021 Evolution has left my XP system behind. This doesn't worry me because it is most definitely not used to sensitive purposes. I have used it like I would drive a classic car since April 2014 and since when I have received MS security updates (POSReady and WEPOS) until August 2018 when Microsoft seemingly dropped pre-SSE2 processor support. POSReady and WEPOS updates never caused any problems. Since my first use of Windows in 1992, I have yet to experience the effects of malware on any of my Windows installations (all internet exposed since 1995) including XP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin AdvancedSetup Posted June 3, 2021 Root Admin ID:1461292 Share Posted June 3, 2021 @pbust Isn't this due to SHA-2 certificate connection trying to connect and pull down the rest of the installer? What if you provided a current full build instead of a web installer build. Of course if there is anything inside the code that calls out trying to do that same SHA-2 certificate connection then you'd run into another error. I can get TLS 1.3 working on XP but that doesn't provide the certificate chain for SSL connections. I can get Microsoft Live mail to work in the browser too, but the full SSL certificate chain does not work on XP. I'm looking around but so far I've not found a way to force it or cheat/enable it on XP. I think this error is what we put in the code for Windows 7 computers to update which do support SHA-2 and the certificate chain it wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff pbust Posted June 4, 2021 Staff ID:1461498 Share Posted June 4, 2021 We'll see what we can do @hake. I have a similar experience as you since early 90's and even if just for the memories I'd like MBAE standalone to continue protecting XP machines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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