Pssst13 Posted December 17, 2008 ID:40415 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Do I still need to install Windows Defender if I purchased your Product?I also use Symantec/Norton Anti Virus Corporate Editon.PS:I am so glad I found your product! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile360 Posted December 17, 2008 ID:40427 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Hello and welcome. Honestly, probably not, as Windows Defender is usually pretty bad about lagging behind when it comes to detecting new threats. However, it doesn't hurt either. Having a backup layer of protection is always a good thing as long as it doesn't slow your system down (which it wouldn't) and as long as it doesn't conflict with the other protections you're running (which it won't). So I would say keep it around, even if it never catches/blocks anything, you'll be just a little bit safer with it than without it. I also highly recommend SpywareBlaster and Spybot Search & Destroy because they both use a passive method of blocking malicious websites and malicious active x controls without having to run in the background so you don't lose any performance. A good firewall would also be a good idea, like Comodo or ZoneAlarm (both free). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoKenny1 Posted December 17, 2008 ID:40455 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Further information about Windows Defender.Check for updates daily:Now available on Microsoft's update portal Windows Defender Antispyware: v1.49.643.0 http://www.microsoft.com/security/portal End Windows Defender then download mpas-fe.exe then run it.If you use a HOSTS file it provides real-time monitoring and malware is now modifying the HOSTS file to prevent access to popular anti virus sites.I use hpHosts and MVPS HOSTS files:http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm <== has a good description of the HOSTS file and its useI manage them with HostsMan and I use its HostsServer proxy to speed up browsing:http://www.abelhadigital.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pssst13 Posted December 20, 2008 Author ID:40884 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Do I still need to install Windows Defender if I purchased your Product?I also use Symantec/Norton Anti Virus Corporate Editon.PS:I am so glad I found your product!Thanks for the advise. I also downloaded SpywareBlaster and it has been great with the Active X stuff. As far as the firewall, I found Comodo more user friendly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonpaco Posted December 20, 2008 ID:40948 Share Posted December 20, 2008 I am using avast since more than 1 years and defender too, I believe this is one of the best microsoft software, many times did solve problems on my pc. Because avast and defender do not fight I suggest you to keep it, then is up to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500 Posted December 20, 2008 ID:40967 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Thanks for the advise. I also downloaded SpywareBlaster and it has been great with the Active X stuff. As far as the firewall, I found Comodo more user friendly.Comodo is also much better at protecting your computer than ZoneAlarm free or pro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodes Posted December 20, 2008 ID:40992 Share Posted December 20, 2008 HiKeep Defender, as it will do no harm and you never know when you may need it - layered protection is best.I had my Zone Alarm tested at Shields Up and it passed all the stealth tests 100%. As far as the outside world was concerned my machine was invisible. Also, the guy at Shields Up speaks very highly of Zone Alarm, free and pro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3xist Posted December 21, 2008 ID:41073 Share Posted December 21, 2008 From my understanding, Steve Gibson (Shields up!) doesn't recommend ZoneAlarm free anymore, I don't know about the pro version. But to compare ZoneAlarm Free & Comodo Firewall protection, Comodo is simply unmatchable - with or without Defense+ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3xist Posted December 21, 2008 ID:41074 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Sorry to double post but I also reccomend Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware at the Comodo Forums. :-) It rocks for on-demand ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerardwil Posted December 21, 2008 ID:41100 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodes Posted December 21, 2008 ID:41114 Share Posted December 21, 2008 From my understanding, Steve Gibson (Shields up!) doesn't recommend ZoneAlarm free anymore, I don't know about the pro version. But to compare ZoneAlarm Free & Comodo Firewall protection, Comodo is simply unmatchable - with or without Defense+I was on the site only a couple of days ago and Steve Gibson was still recommending the pro and free version - can comodo beat 100% on the stealth tests? Also, Zone Alarm does not nag the user to death with constant pop ups but then again we all have our preferences. I agree that Malwarebytes is the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500 Posted December 21, 2008 ID:41119 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I was on the site only a couple of days ago and Steve Gibson was still recommending the pro and free version - can comodo beat 100% on the stealth tests? Also, Zone Alarm does not nag the user to death with constant pop ups but then again we all have our preferences.Don't know what you've been reading, but ZoneAlarm free usually scores terrible on leak tests. In fact, my favorite firewall testing site no longer tests the free version.As far as Comodo free vs ZoneAlarm Pro, Comodo blows it away as far as protection. Anyone who says otherwise has a reseller account.http://www.matousec.com/projects/firewall-...roducts-ratings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodes Posted December 21, 2008 ID:41141 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Don't know what you've been reading, but ZoneAlarm free usually scores terrible on leak tests. In fact, my favorite firewall testing site no longer tests the free version.As far as Comodo free vs ZoneAlarm Pro, Comodo blows it away as far as protection. Anyone who says otherwise has a reseller account.http://www.matousec.com/projects/firewall-...roducts-ratingsI hope you were not accusing me of being a reseller, cheek. I can only say the score i received on the site two days ago - if you don't like it, tough. Its amazing how people like you get so touchy when their little pet gets critized - learn to live with it. Have you tested your firewall at Shields Up? Did it get more than a 100%?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoKenny1 Posted December 21, 2008 ID:41143 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I still go with Jeff Weisbein's interview with Bruce Harrison: http://www.besttechie.net/2008/08/20/malwa...loper-interview <== starting at 8:00 minutes into the video Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500 Posted December 21, 2008 ID:41144 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I hope you were not accusing me of being a reseller, cheek. I can only say the score i received on the site two days ago - if you don't like it, tough. Its amazing how people like you get so touchy when their little pet gets critized - learn to live with it. Have you tested your firewall at Shields Up? Did it get more than a 100%?!No need to get cantankerous. I was referring to this Steve Gibson you were talking about. If he's claiming it's good, then he's trying to make money off of the sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodes Posted December 21, 2008 ID:41146 Share Posted December 21, 2008 No need to get cantankerous. I was referring to this Steve Gibson you were talking about. If he's claiming it's good, then he's trying to make money off of the sales.I was not being cantankerous - your comment could have been clearer. Shields Up has a very good reputation and on his site he makes positive comments about some firewalls and negative ones about others. Why don't you visit the site and see what you think. We disagree about firewalls, no problem - life is too short. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaChew Posted December 21, 2008 ID:41149 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I was not being cantankerous - your comment could have been clearer. Shields Up has a very good reputation and on his site he makes positive comments about some firewalls and negative ones about others. Why don't you visit the site and see what you think. We disagree about firewalls, no problem - life is too short.Steve Gibson and Shieldsup go way back to pre xp days, his site was one of the first shut down by the script kids. Zonealarm can be an effective firewall but so is pulling the cable. I have seen way too many connection problems caused by zone alarm.It can be too much for many users to configure effectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodes Posted December 21, 2008 ID:41154 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Steve Gibson and Shieldsup go way back to pre xp days, his site was one of the first shut down by the script kids. Zonealarm can be an effective firewall but so is pulling the cable. I have seen way too many connection problems caused by zone alarm.It can be too much for many users to configure effectively.According to the test my ZA performed well, it does not give annoying pop ups and its given me no connection problems. Now if your firewall performed like that, would you change it, no of course not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe53 Posted December 21, 2008 ID:41163 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Do I still need to install Windows Defender if I purchased your Product?I also use Symantec/Norton Anti Virus Corporate Editon.PS:I am so glad I found your product!To respond to the OP, you do not "need" Windows Defender, but I would suggest it is well worth keeping resident. I do.I refer you to Bill Castner's excellent treatise on the value of WD here:http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=199980#p199980 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaChew Posted December 21, 2008 ID:41185 Share Posted December 21, 2008 To respond to the OP, you do not "need" Windows Defender, but I would suggest it is well worth keeping resident. I do.I refer you to Bill Castner's excellent treatise on the value of WD here:http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=199980#p199980similar to the way in which third-party utilities such as WinPatrol or Spybot S&D TeaTimer try to add these feature sets.I have been reading Castner's excellent posts and quoted him several times since the 98 days, I guess no one's perfect or unbiasedrun ducking from bolts of lightning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3xist Posted December 22, 2008 ID:41333 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Yes, Comodo Firewall passes Shields up! 100%. As far as pop ups go, Next Comodo Firewall version (Comodo Internet Security) Will be MUCH quieter thanks to a massive whitelist+blacklist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500 Posted December 22, 2008 ID:41444 Share Posted December 22, 2008 As far as pop ups go, Next Comodo Firewall version (Comodo Internet Security) Will be MUCH quieter thanks to a massive whitelist+blacklist.That'll be nice. Defense+ is very annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech0utsider Posted December 23, 2008 ID:41657 Share Posted December 23, 2008 Yes, Comodo Firewall passes Shields up! 100%. As far as pop ups go, Next Comodo Firewall version (Comodo Internet Security) Will be MUCH quieter thanks to a massive whitelist+blacklist.I believe that is a hardware firewall test ^.- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT500 Posted December 24, 2008 ID:41915 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I believe that is a hardware firewall test ^.-My understanding is that any software firewall should be able to pass a hardware firewall test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatCat0623 Posted December 25, 2008 ID:42345 Share Posted December 25, 2008 Windows Defender is a pretty hopeless antispyware in my opinion. But everybody's right: keeping it as a backup won't hurt. I've got many backups to my current line of security software and Windows Defender is among them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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