Done ...twice...no update. Even went back to download the setup file again...Ran the TCPView and again mbam.exe does not show up at all when it tries to update as part of the setup process , and/or when I select from the program itself. I tried running ONLY malwarebytes when trying to update...i.e., no browser or any other app running...TCPView showed the following two 'processes': java.exe:2184 TCP 127.0.0.1:3754 127.0.0.1:32000 ESTABLISHED Wrapper.exe:1508 TCP 127.0.0.1:32000 127.0.0.1:3754 ESTABLISHED ...as mentioned earlier, I have been out of this biz for a while, not sure if that is normal or not...obviously I can get on-line, and to Malwarebytes.org...I am stumped...I recommended loading this on many friends machines in the past...and to date it has been great at finding and getting rid of the few viruses that have found their way onto my pcs...any other suggestions.