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I was using MSE but ended up with a Trojan and now have 0 fatith in its ability so what is better

i use kas when home but i am using the pc at my summer home and refuse to pay70$ for a computer i only use twice a year

Just because you got infected doesn't mean the product is bad... Anti-virus alone will never be able to fully protect you from viruses. It take a conscious effort on the users end to reduce the number of infections. I use MSE at home as does most of my family. We've never had any problems with it. If you are only relying on MSE to keep your computer protected, then I can understand why you got infected. One program by itself is not going to protect you from every attack. I also have the free version of MBAM installed on my computer at home and have been running it for over a year with absolutely zero malware, spyware, or virus infections.

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"zero faith" ...

it sort of depends on the virus , when it was released , first reported and the lag time before new detection data is written and disseminated .

if someone writes/releases a virus that is able to circumvent known detections (they sort of have to otherwise this whole virus/antivirus merry-go-round would have come to a screeching halt years ago) there is going to be an interval of time before the "anti people" catch up .

as far as best free protection goes ... it might be easier to name the ones you wouldn't want to have ! :lol:

man , i think there was a recent topic here about this subject .

i have my favorite free AVs , as do several others here .

not wishing to "open a can of worms" or promote any particular AV :

AVG

avira

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I'll recommend Avast (with MBAM free or pro). It scans pretty fast and has good detection rates.

However, what one needs the most is common sense. If one doesn't follow basic security practices (e.g. not searching for things like "free premium porn sites", opening executable files from trusted sources only, etc.) then god help them and their computer. I'm not saying you lack common sense or anything; it can happen to anyone, even with little or no user intervention whatsoever (hijacked sites, remote intrusions, ...)

Take care and stay safe.

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Missing one Trojan isn't enough to classify MSE as trash. Millions of malware are created daily so it is impossible to say that it doesn't do a good job. I use MSE and does pretty well.:) No one product is best, but if you're looking something that can really keep yourself clean then check out Comodo Internet Security.

http://www.comodo.com/home/internet-security/free-internet-security.php

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Missing one Trojan isn't enough to classify MSE as trash. Millions of malware are created daily so it is impossible to say that it doesn't do a good job. I use MSE and does pretty well.:) No one product is best, but if you're looking something that can really keep yourself clean then check out Comodo Internet Security.

http://www.comodo.com/home/internet-security/free-internet-security.php

i would not use comodo at this time.

recent testing has shown that the sandbox facility is somewhat lacking from previous versions plus their are other horror stories concerning comodo which are too many to mention.

Just check out their forum and see for yourself in the bug section.

scary stuff indeed.

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You do not have to pay 70 dollars for Kaspersky. Amazon has a special on it, 1 PC for a year for just 20 dollars. Or 3 PC's for 26 dollars.

Here is a link:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=kaspersky+internet+security&x=0&y=0

Also, MSE is the free antivirus that I recommend if you don't go for the Kaspersky deal.

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Try Ad-Aware for your antivirus, this great program (it is one of the oldest antivirus programs in existence and fully deservedly, like MBAM, has legendary status; in fact MBAM, Ad-Aware, and AVG all appeared as free programs in the 90's and were the best protective apps around along with Spybot)is an awesome bug-hunter that makes the perfect compliment to MBAM. Ad-Aware is free. Just one thing that some people might take a bit of getting used to: Ad-Aware is a BIG program and a very slow one too; it seems to do everything in slow-motion! You just have to be patient, thats all. When you have installed it, it will want to update and update and update - for nearly three hours if you are on dial-up!!! But if you can get the patience to bear with this fabulous program, you will not look back and will rapidly learn to love your huge, ponderous, bug-hunter!!! Also, when (every day of course!) you update Ad-Aware by pressing the "Update" button on the Options Interface, nothing will seem to happen for a while, but what you need to do is watch your task-bar for an orange strip that eventually will appear with "Ad-Aware" in white lettering on it. Click that, and a big "Update Panel" will jump up in front of you and then just sit there appearing to do nothing for a while in most instances (you've got to be patient! It is supposed to be a virtue! And if this is true then Ad-Aware will probably turn you into a Saint before long!) but sooner or later it will begin to show you that it is downloading updates. After it has updated, it will then vanish! Not just the Update Panel - everything will vanish! When this happens you have got to wait and wait and wait (patience is apparantly a virtue!) because suddenly the Ad-Aware Interface/Options Panel will reappear! And can you guess what you have to do then? Yes you are indeed correct - you have to WAIT!!! (It is an extremely virtuous thing, patience, or so they say, whoever "they" are) You have to wait until the lettering under the three big buttons says "ACTIVATED". And that is "it". Try Ad-Aware, you will not regret it if you give this giant a chance. Also, I disagree strenuously with the people who say not to use Comodo: I use Comodo and have been doing so for many months. Somewhere on this Website is several long writeups I posted about it but I don't know where the hell they are! I will go look for them after writing this, and if I can find them, will come back here hopefully with a way to link to them. Comodo is a fabulously excellent Firewall as long as you download (from CNET) the FIREWALL program and NOT the Comodo "Internet" program (which is a "multi" thing called "Comodo Internet Security" with Firewall and some kind of antivirus; avoid this one as it is full of bad defects); here is the URL to download the Firewall on CNET: http://download.cnet.com/Comodo-Firewall/3000-10435_4-75181464.html. It is vitally important that you install this Firewall correctly: there is a process you have to go through (a series of "panels") during the installation and you have to do it properly otherwise you will have all sorts of problems with the Firewall with settings mysteriously changing! During the installation you will get to a "panel" that lists the Firewall (the entry has a checkbox beside it with a check or tick in it: leave the check/tick in the checkbox) and a thing called "Geekbuddies" which also is checked/ticked. Uncheck/untick "Geekbuddies". The next panel you've got to be ready for as it will only appear for a couple of seconds and then be replaced with another "panel". When that "momentary" panel appears you will see a tiny little checkbox way up in the far-left-top area of the panel, and what you have to do is put a check/tick in it: as said, all you have got is a couple of seconds. If you cannot get the check/tick in the checkbox, then what you have to do is abort the installation process and start all over again, because you MUST get that check/tick in the checkbox. I have done a lot of installations of Comodo Firewall (have trashed a lot of operating systems due to maniacal downloading of experimental, totally unknown programs that often turned out to be nasty! My XP3 installation disk has been used nearly a hundred times this year!!!) and on bad days it has taken more than an hour to get the box ticked! But its too bad, yer gotta do it. After that you will get to a panel where you are asked something like "What Kind Of ProActivity Do You Wish The Firewall To Have?" and you are offered several options: the one to select is MAXIMUM PROACTIVITY. Once you've done that the installation will be completed no sweat, and then Comodo will want you to reboot. Comodo will then be good as gold, and will be absolutely stable. After rebooting, you will then need to configure Comodo. In that stuff about Comodo I wrote on this Website, there are complete step-by-step details of how I configure Comodo (which is not necessarily how you or anyone else will want to) and some other stuff about "training" Comodo. Will now go and try and find it. Good luck with your antivirus, and hope you try Comodo too.

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My lobotomy is playing up again: when you press the "Download" button on the Ad-Aware Interface the orange strip that appears on the task-bar (along from the clock) says in white lettering "Ad-Aware Download". When the download is finished, and Ad-Aware disappears, and then comes back to "show" you the Interface again, you have to wait until the word "OK" appears under the Buttons (when this happens you will also see the words "Real-Time Protection On") and then you can click top-right and close the Interface. I had better go and take my bucket of pills now.

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