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Elsie, I read a particular comment you made about it is important to keep "Updates On!" and newest updates for your antivirus and antimalware to detect for any new viruses and or etc, I have a Logical Question: Your Anti Virus Program and Anti Mal Ware software program is fully up to date, but, a brand new "Virus" has just been unleashed, Now "How can your Anti Virus Program, detect, quarantine & delete it, "If the guys and gals who write the definition signatures have not yet decoded the "Executable Signatures of words, characters, symbols & etc that the "Brand New Virus" has just executed and awaits in it's active sleeping cell mode, untill it has been activated by a user? For instance for argument sake, I just unleashed say"GOTCHA EXE." no one knows the code but me, "no way an anti virus program can know it, till it has been completely examined and decoded by the Anti Virus Team, and this is only after infections have occurred, Right? So in all do respect the Anti Virus can only detect and rid old viruses only, and this is after they have did damage at an earlier time!, In simple layman's terms, "It's all about money right, The the more new viruses that are unleashed, the more money these Anti Virus Programs make and keep making as long as the "Hacker Supplies them with their codes!, Kinda makes you wonder if the Anti Virus teams, are in hind sight the hackers themselves, LOL just a thought! :)

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You raise a valid question here. However, most antivirus/antispyware products are developing/using heuristics scanning. That means: scanning based on certain characteristics/behaviour of a file/application rather than signature detection/comparing a file with a database of known malware.

The downside of this is that some legit files may be detected as malware. It depends on the security program: some have good heuristics canning, others are not so good and thus it may be better to turn that function off altogether.

Another very important point is: prevention. Together with staying up-to-date, a safe internet usage is crucial: don't click unknown links, don't visit dubious sites, stay away from adults-only/casino sites, p2p/warez/cracks and so on.

I hope this answers your questions. :)

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You raise a valid question here. However, most antivirus/antispyware products are developing/using heuristics scanning. That means: scanning based on certain characteristics/behaviour of a file/application rather than signature detection/comparing a file with a database of known malware.

The downside of this is that some legit files may be detected as malware. It depends on the security program: some have good heuristics canning, others are not so good and thus it may be better to turn that function off altogether.

Another very important point is: prevention. Together with staying up-to-date, a safe internet usage is crucial: don't click unknown links, don't visit dubious sites, stay away from adults-only/casino sites, p2p/warez/cracks and so on.

I hope this answers your questions. :)

Elsie, I wish to thank you for your quick reply and brief answer, And further as to not stray away from "Blue Mermaid's Topic, for which she or he has posted due to a malicious software, being I suspect PC Doctor that has caused him or her problems with their computer, I therefore am staying on topic in order to steer Blue Mermaid in the right direction for help and to keep their "Computer" from being attacked again as a preventive course of action., And since you have agreed that I did raise a "Valid" Question, Then therefore, In all do respect, The Question that I proposed due to your comment and help you were giving Blue Mermaid, Has raised an important issue as to the following;

1. Blue Mermaid: Used a Malicious Software(unknowingly) for which she was deliberately and intentionally deceived in to believing, That it would protect the computer and or remove any malicious software from the computer., and this either by method of online "FREE SCAN" and or Purchase & Registering that soft ware for use, Where for it was Bogus and Fraudulent by passing it's self off as a "Legitimate" Anti Malicious Software, but in fact it was not "Anti", Rather a "Virus infection it's self!

2. Blue Mermaid: Then therefore, Sought out help, Like thousands of others in order to resolve her problem with the computer., keeping in mind, That Blue Mermaid did not get infected by an "Adults only site and or etc.," The Malicious Software Company pass it's self off in advertisement as a legitimate web site for Free Scanning and selling of that product!, Wherefore. Elsie, "your answer to me and in a round about way also, Your answer could be deemed in retrospect, advising Blue Mermaid as well in your answer's inference, "That Anti Virus Companies and Anti Malicious Software Companies (The same) want to protect the consumer, And this by "Downloading, Scanning and or Purchasing and installing their product, Wherefore, in it's self, has "Malicious" codes! That are sleepers for a period in time, "and awaken and activated "Simply by the mere typing of a "Word. Number(s), Characters, and or through Updates and ETC., and this is a proven fact!

3. The Primary Goal of these Anti Virus and Anti Malicious Software (one in the same, but with different names and affiliates) are to deceive the general population within the world (consumers) in to believing that they are there to help, And "Yep" That is for money! Nothing is free, There is always a price to pay, "Free Scanning" only invites the Rouge Intruder Virus in to your computer at the touch of your finger on the key board, Instead of it seeking you out, They have had a good strategy of "Bringing You To them!"

In Conclusion, Blue Mermaid this is my help and advice to you, in order to completely and forever rid your computer of a "Virus" is as follows "called "Reformat The Hard Drive, back to the Manufacture's Specifications, "Reinstall your operating system, And if you need to save a file, "Buy your self a cheap computer(they sell good ones for under $200.00) st up that computer and install your files on it, and anything your not sure of in downloading, well "DOWNLOAD" only to it only, and if there is no problem with the download, you can always install it on your "Main Computer!", Like in the U.S. Marine Corps, You never go in to combat without "Backup Your Rifle & Brother Marine!" And Blue Mermaid, If you decide to "reformat and reinstall operating system, "First Priority", This comes from a well known friend of mine who is a savvy technician for over 20 years with Microsoft, "once you Reformat and Reinstall and your up and running, Go to the "Control Panel" click on "Add and Remove Programs", once in there, "Click on the name of the Anti Virus that the manufacturer of your computer pre-installed for the customer, and "Remove it from your "System", and even if it gives you a warning ", "Are you sure you want to remove all it's contents from the computer, Some programs and applications may not work properly and you remove all!", "Click on and select "YES" to All!!!!!, and on the main computer only visit web sites that you personally know and trust! the cheap computer if you buy one for back up, can serve you by "Exploring the entire web, and look at the bright side, From your hard earned lesson, it will be more cheaper in the long run and less costly down that road! post-49609-1282210857_thumb.gif :(post-49609-1282210880_thumb.gif :)

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Hi, I have asked for your posts to be split off from the main topic in order to avoid confusion for the Original Poster.

A few comments on what you stated:

Rogues often slip on your computer as so-called drive-by downloads. This means you only have to visit a certain site in order to get infected. No user-interference is neede.

And here is it where an AV becomes necessary. Most active AV/AS software will detect the fact that a rogue program is being installed on your system and block this or warn you.

Of course rogues attempt to bypass this by stealth techniques, which is why many come bundled with advanced rootkits for example.

Your idea to set up a second computer is not so bad, however, in practice it will be extremely unhandy, testing out every link first on another computer.

I can only taking myself as example: I got involved in malware removal after a major infection back in 2007 (involving a rogue AV). On first sight this rogue (WinXP Antivirus) looked legit to my (noobish) eyes. I discovered very fast it wasn't of course, but by then it was too late and I eventually ended up reformatting.

Since then, I've been very active on the internet, but with basic protection (one active AV and a router, no active spyware scanners since my hardware is quite old and slows things down), I have not been infected again.

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