Jump to content

vista 64


dvk01
 Share

Recommended Posts

  • 4 weeks later...
  • 1 month later...

Was this issue solved? Or perhaps just around the corner? Vista x64 users still encounter a shortage of compatible software - they must be looking forward to seeing the documentation on Malwarebytes' download page. Me? I need to buy a new PC and I'm interested in a 64 bit. So I follow the progress of x64 programs because of that. :P

Link to post
Share on other sites

Was this issue solved? Or perhaps just around the corner? Vista x64 users still encounter a shortage of compatible software - they must be looking forward to seeing the documentation on Malwarebytes' download page. Me? I need to buy a new PC and I'm interested in a 64 bit. So I follow the progress of x64 programs because of that. :P

MBAM will work on x64, and will remove malware on x64. On the other hand, the real-time monitor does not function on x64.

I would believe that Marcin mentioned something about a new driver developer that can do x64. Perhaps they will work on this over the summer.

Link to post
Share on other sites

@Cordialis - Vista x64 users also find a lack of Malware that works effectively on Vista x64 as well....

At least for now...,

I like that! Very good news indeed. :P It also sounds good that Malwarebytes works partially and that the realtime protection is on it's way. At least there is some sort of foucs on this issue.

The conclusion must be that the freeware version is compatible. You really should write that on the download page...

Link to post
Share on other sites

The conclusion must be that the freeware version is compatible. You really should write that on the download page...

I think Marcin has neglected to do that because he doesn't have enough people with x64 in order to do proper tests, and Marcin himself would need x64 versions of Windows in order to check them out, and make sure that MBAM was truley capable of scanning everywhere malware could hide, and that it could also remove everything that it was supposed to. I've done some testing to that end, but Marcin understands the program far better than I do.

Also, as far as malware not being compatible, understand that if you download and run a trojan (such as Zlob, Vundo, etc) it will still install and start downloading all of the rogue garbage that it would normally put on a 32-bit system. Much of these rogue applications install and work fine, so your system is just as infected, with the slight difference that a few of the more annoying things cannot run properly, and they cannot protect themselves from being removed.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I do what I can to NOT download any of this stuff. What I get installs itself. I can't figure out where it's coming from. I have stopped using my news ticker - a couple of weeks without it should tell me if that one is the guilty part. I guess. At least they are not serious infections and I have my logs cleaned ever so often. But I really do wish I could figure out why I get some form malware 2 or 3 times a week. :P

Link to post
Share on other sites

have enough people with x64 in order to do proper tests
Why not write about it in one of the big Vista x64 forums? I'm sure you can find experienced users that would give you a hand in this. Being among the first to service the 64 bit owners will generate user loyalty that Malwarebytes' can benefit from for many years ahead. We all have this veneration for programs we have grown accustomed to. Stick to the devil you know...

Some big fora here:

http://www.vistax64.com/

http://thevistaforums.com/

http://www.start64.com/

Link to post
Share on other sites

I do what I can to NOT download any of this stuff. What I get installs itself. I can't figure out where it's coming from. I have stopped using my news ticker - a couple of weeks without it should tell me if that one is the guilty part. I guess. At least they are not serious infections and I have my logs cleaned ever so often. But I really do wish I could figure out why I get some form malware 2 or 3 times a week. :P

I assume you use Internet Explorer to browse with?

Oh, I see now that some of you fine people already are active on these useful forums...

Unfortunetly in order to get beta testers we need to find people who actually care about beta testing the product. Not many people beta test in the first place, so that means that only a minuscule number of x64 users would actually care about beta testing MBAM on x64. This was probably compounded by the fact that Malwarebytes did not have the resources to devote towards making the real-time monitor available in the registered version compatible with x64, and the fact that no x64 binaries were being compiled.

With luck Marcin and his new developer will be able to focus more on the x64 side during the sumer, and get us working x64 builds for beta testing. Once that happens, we should be able to draw in more x64 users who are willing to beta test for us, and then release a 100% x64 compatible version of MBAM.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Yup - You'll be seeing me there at Vista x64 a lot - just as much as here :P

But, another factor is that, while I have helped beta test a a good bit in the past, I am now in the X64 user group - for the last month and a half - previously I was all 32bit. So, I am relatively new to the x64 field, and now testing for me comprises of making sure the scanner works as it is supposed to.

When they get moving forward on developing the x64 modules needed to make it 100% compatible for x64 systems, I am sure that, along with GT500, I will get a couple of opportunities to more thoroughly test it....

Link to post
Share on other sites

@ GT500: Yes, I use IE7 - Opera and FireFox have compatibility problems with my temper. Shame on them! :P

@ John L. Galt: I read somewhere that Dell will stop the sale of XP Home from now on and I guess that more companies will follow the same strategy. So for several years ahead we (ordinary users) can chose between Vista and Vista. This will increase the number of x64 users, I guess. Software for Vista 64 bit is getting more important and this is happening very quickly...

Link to post
Share on other sites

You have to look at it like this:

Asking Microsoft to continue to sell / allow sale of XP is like asking Nissan to continue sales of the 1999 version of the Altima. Or, more precisely, brand new, just manufactured 2.0 EFI engines that were an option in the '99 Altimas.

Nissan has moved forward, and unless you want some third party building your engine, you're stuck with what Nissan sells.

While not 100% analogous, you have to remember - people *now* like XP because the hardware has caught up, and in many respects, surpassed the capabilities of the OS. When XP was first released to the world in all its glory, a Pentium 4 2.0(A) GHz Northwood CPU was selling for more than a Core 2 Quad 6600 sells for today. I know, because I stumbled upon that very came CPU for about $150 less than it should have sold for - because a seller on eBay had no idea what he was selling (and naturally I took advantage of that and bought the CPU, designing that build around that CPU). However, when I got that machine, the average Dell machine was 'going over the top' when it offered 256 MB RAM - I used a cheap motherboard and installed 1 GB RAM.

Guess what? I loved XP - it ran like it should - IDE 7200 RPM drives made it scream, it looked and performed better than windows 2000 for me, and I was ridiculed because I had "a new mid level machine" which was distorting my perception.

Fast forward to today - I have Vista on a Core 2 Quad, 4 GB RAM, and it screams. I love every minute of it. I now have x64 in place of x86, and it uses all the RAM - but I had originally planned for 8 GB (I had to change my plans when I found out that the RAM I selected would not work SxS in the slots because of space requirements).

Of course people love XP now - it runs so fast (of course, it was designed with hardware that is 3 generations old in mind - duh!) But it is also a PITA to maintain.

Know how many products I have installed for watching for Malware? 2. MBAM and Symantec Endpoint Security (which, technically, is like 3 products in one, as it contains AV, AS and FW). Nothing else.

My system resources are free, gloriously free. I don't have a hosts file. I don't have Spywareblaster. I don't have Ad-aware, Spybot S&D, Rogue Remover (though I have toyed with adding that one, just to show loyalty :P), I don't have Super AntiSpwyare, etc.

Know how many times I have been infected? 0. Know how many things have been found on my system? 5. 3 of those were Trojans that I downloaded as a test to try to find cracks for MBAM for Marcin. 1 was the test virus file I downloaded for testing MBAM. One was one that was a false positive.

XP is guaranteed to run faster because:

It is a smaller kernel, and a smaller codebase. You cannot expect a program that has more lines of code, in most cases, to run *faster* than a program that has less lines of code.

People keep performing tests comparing XP and Vista on the same hardware - which simply is not fair. As I said earlier, XP was written for a different generation of hardware - show me tests where XP performs better and faster on a P4 2.0 GHz machine with 1 GB RAM and all IDE drives (I'll even let you take 7200 rpm drives) versus Vista on a Core2Duo E6600 with 3 GB RAM and SATA II drives, and then we can talk - otherwise it is not an apples to apples discussion.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

Back to top
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

This site uses cookies - We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.