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If I can make suggestions for future versions of Malwarebytes Browser Guard (valid for Safari, but also for other browsers) I would implement these things:

block adult content (especially those too explicit); the worst ones are those made to be displayed to users who are not looking for them by means of crazy redirects from one site to another, one worse than the other - including previews in search engines - this I consider particularly important in cases where you have to let a child or minor use the computer in general, in addition to deem them inapropriate in general - not to mention that these websites can pour malware on the devices of unsuspecting users not always aware of the dangers of this type

blocking of violent content, weapons, drugs, gambling (especially illegal gambling)

a block of redirects to those sites that propose "you won an iPhone 13" or similar

further improve the anti-tracking function (giving a further help to Apple's Intelligent Tracking Prevention - this of course in the Safari version) giving a final blow to tracking through third-party cookies or other methods even worse, especially by Facebook or other data-brokers, sometimes less famous but of equal level; I don't think it's acceptable, maybe it's just me, to be bombarded with ads related to everything that is searched on the net

Hoping that these suggestions will be accepted, I wish you a good day.

Thanks

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Most of what you suggest would be censorship. Malwarebytes is not the net police.

MB is not here to judge or censor, only to try to protect the device not the users eyes or sensibilities.

There is other software out there to do what you are suggesting. Software like that is a personal choice and should not be included with any of a security company's product at least by default.

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@Porthos , @AdvancedSetup

Apart from the fact that I didn't request a preventive censorship operation but the addition of blocking functions that can be activated with a free choice of the user, if it would be at least possible to block unsolicited redirects to sites of this type (both for certain contents and for those containing typical scams) as well as blocking indiscriminate cross-site tracking would already be fantastic.

My request came up today only because I was looking for news about a doctor who has to do surgery on me (he's a top doctor in his particular field with several international publications) probably due to the compromise of some website or advertising networks I found myself in a compulsive redirect of sites with these contents (none excluded) that had even blocked the ability to close the browser (and I use macOS with Malwarebytes Premium and Browser Guard installed with only Safari)

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@Porthos @AdvancedSetup

I simply thought of proposing something that I thought would be useful as an additional (non-mandatory) protection for those who surf the internet and get flooded with what they didn't ask for.
If it is not feasible, whatever the reason (Apple restrictions or other) does not matter
Thanks anyway for your attention
Have a nice day
Massimiliano

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I'm not sure what you mean by flooded with what user didn't ask for.

uBlock Origin and Malwarebytes Browser Guard do stop the lions share of unwanted content. I don't see others posting about this flood of unwanted content.

Both content blockers do very well with controlling unwanted content.

If you're getting unwanted redirects perhaps you need to work with one of the malware removal experts to have them help you review and clean your system. What you post about just doesn't seem to be normal operations from a browser.

 

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4 hours ago, AdvancedSetup said:

you need to work with one of the malware removal experts to have them help you review and clean your system

 

  • uBlockorigin does not exist for Safari
  • This is the first time this has happened to me
  • The system was reinstalled from 0 after formatting yesterday afternoon and the situation occurred last night. Malwarebytes Premium reports 0 items detected and Malwarebytes Browser guard didn't block anything even though I only the pharmacy booking system whitelisted. In the whitelist of the browser (therefore on which no type of block can interact) there are only the websites of the bank, of the Certified Electronic Mail and of the SPID provider (Sistema Pubblico Identità Digitale - Public Digital Identity System) which is used only to authenticate in the websites of the Public Administration. Looking for information on the above mentioned doctor I stumbled into an endless series of passages between porn sites and scam sites.After several attempts I managed to restart my Mac and immediately after the manual scan (I have one scheduled every day as indicated by the instructions) considered the system clean.

If you think that a scan should be done you can kindly ask @treed  for an opinion on what to do

Thanks

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Browser Guard is not a product that I manage, so I can't comment on feature requests for Browser Guard except in a general way.

I can say that Malwarebytes does not specialize in filtering adult or violent content. Based on the current company strategy, it's very unlikely that we'll be branching out into that area any time soon, if at all.

However, if you're encountering this kind of content unwillingly, via redirects from malicious websites or ads, those are definitely things that we should be blocking. If you're encountering things like this that aren't getting blocked, I'd recommend posting information in the IP or URL threats forum:

https://forums.malwarebytes.com/forum/155-newest-ip-or-url-threats/

If you can identify what site caused the redirect, report it there. If you think it's from an advertisement that was not blocked, report the site and give details about the fact that there are ads there that aren't getting blocked.

Of course, if you encounter content that appears to be a scam - even if it is related to adult or violent content - that is something we'd want to hear about. Scam sites are definitely of interest to us.

Regarding improved tracker blocking, are you having an issue with trackers not getting blocked? If so, we'd need to have more details so we can block them.

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Thank you @treed for your reply

1 hour ago, treed said:

However, if you're encountering this kind of content unwillingly, via redirects from malicious websites or ads, those are definitely things that we should be blocking. If you're encountering things like this that aren't getting blocked, I'd recommend posting information in the IP or URL threats forum:

 

Unfortunately, I can't help you. It never happened to me when I was still using Windows (but I'm talking about years ago and it probably wasn't so widespread), much less since I've been using Mac.
Unfortunately I can't give you the URL because I'd rather not end up in that crap again. I've even deleted history, cache, cookies and flush DNS cache for extra security.
 

1 hour ago, treed said:

If you can identify what site caused the redirect, report it there. If you think it's from an advertisement that was not blocked, report the site and give details about the fact that there are ads there that aren't getting blocked.

Of course, if you encounter content that appears to be a scam - even if it is related to adult or violent content - that is something we'd want to hear about. Scam sites are definitely of interest to us.

Like I said my request came in today because of my bad experience last night and it had never happened to me. Surely there was something compromised in some website linked to the one I entered to look for more information about this doctor (probably some advertising circuit that had been hacked); research that I am doing having to undergo a delicate surgery that should solve a situation that has lasted for over 20 years.
Definitely if it happens again I will pay more attention to what I see in the address bar (the only thing I remember was the first switch from a .it domain to a .nl domain)

Honestly as far as ad blocking goes, I've reported it twice here in the Safari versions section since the beginning, there are very few that are blocked from MBG

I report the links and quotes and I realize now with the reverse translation to reconstruct the whole and quote only the necessary parts made with a new online translator, that the previous one was bad but unfortunately my knowledge of English is reduced to a minimum

Again on August 11 (https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/277525-feedback/

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I cannot say more than the Firefox versions (very little use this browser to be able to give an evaluation) or Chrome (I avoid this browser)

I'm noticing that at least in Safari the blocked advertisements are just a few 

If I haven't 1BLOCKER together I would like to virtually see at least 90% of the announcements on the sites you visit regularly

However, if the function of the extension is not to block advertisements in a total way - which is rather than legitimate - I think should be better clarified to make the user to make a conscious choice

Actually I meant to say that at least 90% of the total are displayed, not that I want to display them

 

In my feedback on August 18 (https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/277744-difference-in-the-allow-list-why/)

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As I wrote earlier, Malwarebytes Browser Guard alone blocks very few ads, but is more likely to be detected as an Ad-Blocker by sites that require it to be disabled than 1blocker (paid) or Ka-Block! (free like yours)

and I also said that without 1blocker (which unfortunately at this moment I had to delete, despite the perennial purchase, because since the new versions of apple OS came out it nails too many sites and makes it impossible to use Safari and I'm waiting for a response from their support) practically all the ads are displayed.

As for the trackers, I was talking about Facebook not by chance. In spite of Apple's blocks, FACEBOOK is present among the data of the websites always and comnque with cache and alternative HTTP services; I premise that I don't have an account on Facebook or other social networks (not even WhatsApp) and the same is true for a myriad of other domains that have the same entries.

Then there are websites that have requests where to disable all possible tracking item by item because they do not have a cumulative one (unfortunately, among these is one of our local newspapers) you have to work about ten minutes (for this I solved it by blocking their domain in the hosts file)

 

I accept suggestions about this, both to be able to reduce online tracking as much as possible (which is now at absurd levels, at least in my opinion) and to avoid any security problems or close encounters with this type of content that are certainly not among those I'm looking for, ON THE CONTRARY.

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4 hours ago, Massimiliano said:

As for the trackers, I was talking about Facebook not by chance. In spite of Apple's blocks, FACEBOOK is present among the data of the websites always and comnque with cache and alternative HTTP services

If you see the Facebook logo on a page, then it probably is a tracker that will report you IP address back to mother Facebook (or maybe Meta now) and attempts to treat you as the same as if you had an account. I doubt that is true or the one at the bottom of this forum page, however.

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16 minutes ago, alvarnell said:

If you see the Facebook logo on a page, then it probably is a tracker that will report you IP address back to mother Facebook (or maybe Meta now) and attempts to treat you as the same as if you had an account. I doubt that is true or the one at the bottom of this forum page, however.

Correct. We only link to our page on Facebook. There is no special code from us behind that link for tracking or anything else.

 

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What I was referring to is what you see in the Manage Website Data screen in the Safari Preferences - Privacy Tab

This makes me think that Apple's ITP (and also MBG) doesn't really block everything third-party. I'm not a developer 

Apart from this, that we all know to be traced to the marrow, the thing that I hate (and that I have experienced for the first, and I hope last time, only yesterday) is the fact that there are these redirects due to compromise of some website and it seems that nothing can be done

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1 minute ago, AdvancedSetup said:

Correct. We only link to our page on Facebook. There is no special code from us behind that link for tracking or anything else.

 

That your site is secure I have no doubt (It would be strange otherwise from a security software company). But that's not the case for everyone.

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15 hours ago, AdvancedSetup said:

How one tracks or goes out of the way to track is more so the issue. I too am not a fan of aggressive tracking

 

I don't dispute minimal tracking to improve sales.

I challenge aggressive tracking and the use of it to peddle scams or questionable content with possible scam attached.

I object to tracking in particular from the Menlo Park group.

And that's why I don't use anything they do. 

On Facebook I had an account because people I knew insisted; I closed it after 3 days and at the same time I closed the email address used. I also have no other social

On WhatsApp I lasted less than a year. Now only Phone/SMS/E-mail and for those who have Apple devices I use iMessage (fortunately for me most of the contacts or at least those to whom I have to send something written)

My situation is very unlikely to change over time.

Translated from Italian to English with automatic online translator. Sorry for any inaccuracies

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