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Start menu is centered. Yuck.


It is possible to change the position of the Start Menu from the center to the left side of the screen using the Windows 11 taskbar options.



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20 minutes ago, brad03 said:

Hopefully they will offer it free like they did windows 10

If it is, It is also their chance to remove the free upgrade ability from 7 and 8.

Maybe, after windows 8 goes out of support in 2023 they can just call it Windows. No bloody 10,11,12, or whatever.


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I may be wrong so correct me if I am Ron, but I thought I read somewhere that support for W10 ends sometime in 2025 and that W11 may come out in October?? I know guys on Wilders are running 11 already. If I find that article again I will post back here. ( If I wasn't imaging things that is.😝).

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Not really following it that closely myself. Still a long ways out.


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On 6/17/2021 at 8:57 PM, AdvancedSetup said:

No one knows for sure, not even Microsoft but that is their plan. Sometime near the end of 2025

This didn't age well.

So - Official Insider Release about to be tested by me. Do I need to uninstall MalwareBytes or will it function OK?

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That's up to you if you decide you want or need to remove Malwarebytes

We do not and have never supported BETA versions of Windows.

You're welcome to install the Beta and test and give feedback on your issue if any and we'll see what we can do if it's not working as we have time.

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@shanelord   and anyone else who has Premium ( or Lifetime) license for Malwarebytes.   a tip.

Because the Windows "build / version" number is different.   To prevent a trip-up on licensing, I would suggest you first Deactivate the license in the program GUI  ( best), or else thru MyAccount .... before you do any upgrade onto Windows 11.

After the migration of OS, if all is swell,  then re-activate your  MB license.   Best to be cautious.


As to speculation as to when Win11 might be a "release" to current end-users  ( if they choose it ) , I think I read 2022.   Though new pc's from manufacturers sometime next fall may / would have Win11 pre-installed if it is a release at that time.   Otherwise, new manufaturer hardware would be tagged as "upgrade eligible".

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That would be awfully quick.   Stay tuned.  😃

PS.  It will be entirely optional.   Plus one should remark it does have hardware requirements.


Processor:   1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with 2 or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or System on a Chip (SoC)

RAM:   4 gigabyte (GB)

Storage:   64 GB or larger storage device

Note: See below under “More information on storage space to keep Windows 11 up-to-date” for more details.

System firmware:   UEFI, Secure Boot capable

TPM:   Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0

Graphics card:   Compatible with DirectX 12 or later with WDDM 2.0 driver

Display:   High definition (720p) display that is greater than 9” diagonally, 8 bits per color channel

Internet connection and Microsoft accounts: 

Windows 11 Home edition requires internet connectivity and a Microsoft account to complete device setup on first use.

Switching a device out of Windows 11 Home in S mode also requires internet connectivity. Learn more about S mode here.

For all Windows 11 editions, internet access is required to perform updates and to download and take advantage of some features. A Microsoft account is required for some features.


Note the UEFI req * graphic card  req

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8 minutes ago, Maurice Naggar said:

PS.  It will be entirely optional. 

Of course it is. But 4 years goes by real fast.😂

9 minutes ago, Maurice Naggar said:

Plus one should remark it does have hardware requirements.

Hopefully those will relax a whole lot before release or for my example, 90% of my current clients will have to buy a replacement compatible computer before 2025

I personally do not own any computers that are currently according MS compatible.


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The TPMv2 requirement is the one that seems to be causing the most concern.

Even if the machine has 'on CPU' TPM then it's probably disabled by default and so needs to be enabled in the UEFI.
Is the average home user going to know how to get into the UEFI, (if they even know what UEFI is), or be comfortable going in there to enable it?
(Should be easy money for computer repair shops to 'fix' though).

If you don't have a TPM equivalent on CPU and your Motherboard doesn't support a seperate TPM chip then hard luck.

PS. There is a good Win 11 compatibility checker on github, scroll down for the downloads:

It should be on it's own website soon but there seems to be an issue with their SSL at the moment:
EDIT - That is now just redirecting back to the github page, guess they are still having SSL issues.

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So seems to be a UI bug in Windows 11 showing (even if you have everything enabled correctly - ie WhyNotWin11 says yes to everything), Device Security after install will state "Standard hardware security not supported" - this happens even on a stock Surface Pro X.

Malwarebytes is running perfectly BTW.

Also - seems Windows 11 UI and OS are decoupled, with the OS already sent as RTM: 


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