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I have the 'start with windows' setting on, but I have noticed for some time that MB does not appear in the tray every day, more like every few days.  I also checked and the MBAMService is not running when the tray icon does not appear.  I manage several computers and am careful, so I don't really suspect malware doing this, but I wanted to ask for advice.  I have scanned and MB doesn't find anything.  I have trouble with some other tray applications not starting automatically as well (Logitech LGS, Logitech HUB, Nvidia icon, sometimes Skype) but most of them do, so I am trying to figure it out.  This has been going on for at least six months, possibly longer since most things still start.  I am running Windows 10, mostly automatic updates.

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37 minutes ago, Sean72 said:

I have the 'start with windows' setting on, but I have noticed for some time that MB does not appear in the tray every day, more like every few days.

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Greetings,

This may be caused by a new feature in Windows 10 called fast startup.  Disabling this option should correct the issue if this is the case.

The article here explains why this occurs.  Basically, with fast startup enabled Windows suspends running background processes like services and drivers to memory (RAM) instead of allowing the processes to shut down as they would normally whenever the system is powered off (not restarted; the restart function still closes processes normally).  This means that the next time the system is started those processes are already loaded into memory as though they were never stopped/closed.  The effect this has on programs like Malwarebytes which rely on a normal startup process for their services and other background components to launch is that the service, which would normally start the tray as a part of its own startup process, is already running in memory as though it had never been stopped, meaning it does not go through its normal startup routine of launching the tray's process into memory.

The information located here as well as here details how to disable fast startup and explains more about how it works.

Given the fact that most modern systems use relatively fast solid state drives (SSD's) instead of the older, much slower spinning mechanical hard drives (HDD's) as their primary boot device where the operating system and most programs are stored, using a feature like fast startup to attempt to speed up system boot times provides very negligible benefits and as mentioned, may cause some applications to fail to start properly when powering on the machine.

I hope this helps, and if the above information does not resolve the issue, please follow the instructions indicated by Porthos above to post diagnostic logs for analysis.

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