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Thank you @gicahagi

If you have not setup extensive exclusions between Malwarebytes and Kaspersky then yes you probably will have some issues. As for the Web Protection you'll need to either choose ours or the one from Kaspersky.
Don't believe you'll be able to use both of them at the same time.

Since you're using Kaspersky and they do have a known compatibility issue with almost every known security software I would believe that is more than likely your issue.

Here are some generic links on setting exclusions but you may need more in depth assistance to setup proper exclusions with Kaspersky

Malwarebytes for Windows antivirus exclusions list

Video: Add Exclusions in Malwarebytes for Windows v4

Patch A for version 21.1.15.500
Patch A for Kaspersky Internet Security version 21.1.15.500 was released on August 11, 2020.
https://support.kaspersky.com/15595#21.1.15.500a

 

Here are links from Kaspersky which pretty much says in a nutshell that if you choose their product then you need to remove all other security products.

 

How to change Application Control settings
https://support.kaspersky.com/KIS/2021/en-US/82507.htm

You can see here from a previous topic that there have been known issues with Kaspersky. Even if you are successful in getting them to work well together now a change from Kaspersky, Malwarebytes, or even Windows can once again cause issues.

Kaspersky 2020 g update released
https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/254964-kaspersky-2020-g-update-released/

 

 

List of applications incompatible with Kaspersky Internet Security
https://support.kaspersky.com/install/15516

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If you use Kaspersky Internet Security alongside incompatible applications, the applications may not work properly and and operating system errors may occur. We recommend removing these applications before the installation of Kaspersky Internet Security.

 

https://support.kaspersky.com/15516#block1

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  • Acer LANScope Agent
  • Adaptive Security Analyzer
  • Ad-Aware Web Companion
  • AEC TrustPort Antivirus
  • AEC TrustPort Personal Firewall
  • AES Encryption Module
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  • Agnitum Outpost Firewall
  • Agnitum Outpost Firewall Pro
  • Agnitum Outpost Network Security Client
  • Agnitum Outpost Security Suite Pro
  • Agnitum Spam Terrier
  • AhnLab SpyZero
  • AhnLab Internet Security
  • AhnLab Internet Security Platinum Enterprise
  • AhnLab VirusBlock
  • AhnLab VirusBlock Internet Security
  • Aluria Security Center
  • AIYac Antivirus
  • ArcaVir Antivir
  • ArcaVir Internet Security
  • Ashampoo AntiSpyware
  • Ashampoo AntiVirus
  • Ashampoo FireWall PRO
  • Authentium Command Anti-Malware
  • Authentium Command AV
  • Authentium Safe Central
  • Avast Free Antivirus
  • Avast Internet Security
  • Avast Premier
  • Avast Pro Antivirus
  • Avast Software
  • avast! Antivirus Software
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  • avast! Internet Security
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  • ALWIL Software Avast
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  • AVG Anti-Virus FREE
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  • AVG Free Edition
  • AVG Identity Protection
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  • Avira AntiVir Server/Desktop
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  • Avira Family Protection Suite
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  • Avira Internet Security
  • Avira Launcher
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  • Avira Software
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  • Baidu Antivirus
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Kaspersky statement on Kaspersky Protection Extension not recommended in Mozilla FireFox web browser
https://support.kaspersky.com/common/compatibility/15451

How to disable promotional messages in Kaspersky Lab products
https://support.kaspersky.com/common/settings/14038

 

Thank you

 

 

 

 

 

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It is not a bug. It is an ongoing compatibility issue. Running more than one antivirus application at a time has always been problematic.

The choice is yours. Malwarebytes works very well with Windows Defender that is built-in to Windows 10 if you want to uninstall Kaspersky.

If you want to keep Kaspersky then you need to either spend a lot of time trying get them to play together well, or uninstall Malwarebytes.

Again, the choice is really up to you and how much time or effort you want to put into it.

 

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I would also add that I have seen numerous issues with network connectivity and speed when using multiple WFP drivers such as the one used by Malwarebytes for its Web Protection component and I believe Kaspersky uses at least one WFP driver for its firewall and web filtering components as well which might explain the issues you are experiencing.  If this is the case, exclusions might help, but more than likely you will need to disable one of the WFP drivers (this also explains why disabling Web Protection resolves the issue since doing so disables Malwarebytes' WFP driver).  I've seen users with similar issues using Avast, Bitdefender and a few other AVs.  Sometimes exclusions help, sometimes they do not and one of the WFP drivers must be disabled.  I do not know if exclusions work to fix the issue with the latest versions of KIS.

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This is indeed a WFP collision between Malwarebytes and Kaspersky software. We have reproduced this behaviour internally.

Please see https://support.malwarebytes.com/hc/en-us/articles/360051090194-Issues-running-other-security-applications-and-Malwarebytes-for-Windows.

As you've found, exclusions are not sufficient for working around this problem. You will need to disable Web Protection in Malwarebytes or uninstall Kaspersky Total Security/disable the web protection-related functionality in Kaspersky Total Security.

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By the way, @gicahagi, if you aren't doing so already, I'd highly recommend installing Malwarebytes Browser Guard, especially if you end up deciding to keep Web Protection disabled, as Malwarebytes Browser Guard blocks much of the same malicious content as Web Protection in Malwarebytes in addition to also blocking many ads, trackers and also includes advanced behavior based blocking for tech support scam sites.  It only shields your browser, unlike Web Protection which shields your entire system, however the web browser is obviously the highest risk web-facing application in most cases so it gives back a large part of what is lost when Web Protection is disabled and it shouldn't conflict with Kaspersky either.

Please refer to the links below for more info and downloads:

Malwarebytes Browser Guard homepage
Chrome (Chromium browser compatible) version
Firefox version

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9 hours ago, LiquidTension said:

This is indeed a WFP collision between Malwarebytes and Kaspersky software. We have reproduced this behaviour internally.

Please see https://support.malwarebytes.com/hc/en-us/articles/360051090194-Issues-running-other-security-applications-and-Malwarebytes-for-Windows.

As you've found, exclusions are not sufficient for working around this problem. You will need to disable Web Protection in Malwarebytes or uninstall Kaspersky Total Security/disable the web protection-related functionality in Kaspersky Total Security.

I ran into this issue with the WFP conflicting between Avast and Malwarebytes which caused a BSOD about a month ago.

AdvancedSetup was a big help finding the culprit on this compatibility issue and letting me know what my options were going forward.

 

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I'm sorry but we will not be working on trying to make Malwarebytes compatible with Kaspersky. Our product is a full antivirus replacement and is no longer just an addition to an antivirus.

https://www.malwarebytes.com/antivirus/

You will need to choose one and probably remove the other one

Thank you

 

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Why you don't ask Kaspersky to make it compatible with malwarebytes? Same thing for them i guess. For more then 20 year i know that installing more then one AV was a bad idea. It's sucking up resources on your pc that you could use otherwise. It also gives you a false feeling of protection. Not to mention the BSOD and all other kind of problems because of this. Two AV are always fighting each other for rights on your system. They even fight each other giving you errors all the time. So no Malwarebytes should NOT make it compatible with Kaspersky. Kaspersky itself could do the same thing, but they just ignoring it. Malwarebytes is a good FULL AV like many other, you do not need another one. Just my two cents...

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