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Hello,

although the option Windows Security Center (WSC) is ativated in the settings, MBAM is not displayed in the WSC.

How can I display it in the center?

Thanks in advance!

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2 minutes ago, pions said:

How can I display it in the center?

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Sorry to revive this old topic, but i have a question pertaining to this feature

When MWB is registered in the Windows Security Center, it's as antivirus only but the web protection area is left blank.

Whether MWB is registered or not in the Windows Security Center, shouldn't MWB be in the Web protection in WSC if the feature is activated in MWB?

 

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3 minutes ago, ReneD1973 said:

When MWB is registered in the Windows Security Center, it's as antivirus only but the web protection area is left blank.

If you are only using Defender along with Malwarebytes it is recommended to NOT register it in the security center.

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The reason many of us members are pushing Keeping Defender on is the following.

Malwarebytes does not target script files during a scan... That means MB will not target; JS, HTML, VBS, .CLASS, SWF, BAT, CMD, PDF, PHP, etc.

It also does not target documents such as; PDF, DOC, DOCx, XLS, XLSx, PPT, PPS, ODF, etc.

It also does not target media files;  MP3, WMV, JPG, GIF, etc.

Malwarebytes will detect files like these on execution-only.

And,

Malwarebytes is not designed to function like normal AV scanners and uses a new kind of scan engine that relies mostly on heuristics detection techniques rather than traditional threat signatures.  Malwarebytes is also designed to look in all the locations where malware is known to install itself/hide, so a full or custom scan shouldn't be necessary, especially on any sort of frequent basis (like daily), especially since the default Threat Scan/Quick Scan checks all loading points/startup locations, the registry, all running processes and threads in memory, along with all system folders, program folders, and data folders as well as any installed browsers, caches, and temp locations.  This also means that if a threat were active from a non-standard location because Malwarebytes checks all threads and processes in memory, it should still be detected.  The only threat it *might* miss would be a dormant/inactive threat that is not actively running/installed on a secondary drive, however, if the threat were executed then Malwarebytes should detect it.  Additionally, whenever a new location is discovered to be used by malware the Malwarebytes Research team adds that location dynamically to the outgoing database updates so the locations that are checked by the default Threat/Quick Scan in Malwarebytes can be changed on the fly by Research without requiring any engine or program version updates/upgrades.

An AV will catch the file just by downloading it or just opening a folder with a detected file in it.

For example, you get an email with an infected attachment, Malwarebytes will not even blink until you run it yet Defender will detect it if it is in their database without even actually clicking on it. Remember the list of files Malwarebytes does not target.

Then I will leave you with this.

As good as Malwarebytes is, it is just a layer of protection.

Using a browser that has Ublock Origin and the Malwarebytes Browser guard enabled is also a layer of protection.

Not opening attachments from an email unless you were expecting it from a specific user during a specific time period.

Do not use Torrents. Do not install every free software you find. Do not click links in an unknown email. Go directly to the sit listed in the email.

Having a monthly image of your computer on an external drive that is only connected during the backup is actually better than any protective software ever made. Macrium Reflect free is the program I use and place on every computer I service.

 

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6 minutes ago, ReneD1973 said:

Whether MWB is registered or not in the Windows Security Center, shouldn't MWB be in the Web protection in WSC if the feature is activated in MWB?

No, web protection does not work that way.

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Hello Porthos, quick reply, but i think you missed the point of my post,
wether or not i enabled MWB in WSC isn't the point but rather to have
MWB tell WSC that it is in charge of web protection for WSC.

Hence my question: Whether MWB is registered or not in the Windows Security Center, shouldn't MWB be in the Web protection in WSC if the feature is activated in MWB?

and a follow up , what is that feature of WSC clled web protection, is it different than what Malwarebyte's considers web protection ?

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2 minutes ago, ReneD1973 said:

Hello Porthos, quick reply, but i think you missed the point of my post,
wether or not i enabled MWB in WSC isn't the point but rather to have
MWB tell WSC that it is in charge of web protection for WSC.

Hence my question: Whether MWB is registered or not in the Windows Security Center, shouldn't MWB be in the Web protection in WSC if the feature is activated in MWB?

and a follow up , what is that feature of WSC clled web protection, is it different than what Malwarebyte's considers web protection ?

What version of Windows are you on?

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Just now, ReneD1973 said:

i'd be curious to learn more on MS' and MWB's definition of "Web protection" and why it isn't in the  WSC.

 

1 minute ago, Porthos said:

What version of Windows are you on?

 

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1 minute ago, ReneD1973 said:

win10 x64 2004 

Malwarebytes runs web protection independently and does not show up in that section. It does not work like other 3rd party AV programs.

If you wish to test if web protection is working you can visit iptest.malwarebytes.org and you should get a block.

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1 minute ago, Porthos said:

Malwarebytes runs web protection independently and does not show up in that section. It does not work like other 3rd party AV programs.

If you wish to test if web protection is working you can visit iptest.malwarebytes.org and you should get a block.

yes, that is the case i observed too, but why is it not in the Web protection section of Windows Security Center?

Right now WSC says i have nothing protecting me on the web other than Windefender. Yet MWB has Web protection enabled.

Isn't it counter intuitive to not have MWB in WSC as Web protector ?

Seems logical to me to set MWB as a "Fournisseur" doing web protection (sorry don't know the english term used in W10 for this info)

 

 

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1 minute ago, ReneD1973 said:

(sorry don't know the english term used in W10 for this info)

That is OK, I gathered enough from your screenshot. You English is pretty good as well.

I am sure a staff member will come along and explain why and if it is even possible to register there.

I have full confidence the the combo of Malwarebytes and Defender with the Windows Firewall is all you need. (a little commonsense does not hurt as well)

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i also have confidence in MWB and WD too.

But i'm still curious why Malwarebytes doesn't set mbam as the web protector,
it's just something that's always seemed to be logical to be there in WSC since mbam can
also be registered as AV, seems logical it would also set itself as Web Protector.

Anyhoo, thank you, and thank you for the advice you provided.

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Might want to also read the following.

The following links explain what the WFP APIs are and how it is used in applications as well as some info on how Web Protection in Malwarebytes works:

About Windows Filtering Platform
Windows Filtering Platform
About Windows Filtering Platform From Wikipedia
Understanding the Windows Filtering Platform

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1 minute ago, Porthos said:

Might want to also read the following.

The following links explain what the WFP APIs are and how it is used in applications as well as some info on how Web Protection in Malwarebytes works:

 

About Windows Filtering Platform
Windows Filtering Platform
About Windows Filtering Platform From Wikipedia
Understanding the Windows Filtering Platform

Fascinating, i may have more questions after reading, but this is a good start to better understanding how mbam and wsc function together.

T.Y.

 

 

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Hello,

This is currently expected behaviour. It doesn't indicate an issue with the Web Protection being provided by Malwarebytes.

The concept of a "Web protection" provider in Windows is relatively new and wasn't present in older versions of Windows such as Windows 7. It's something we may evaluate in the future.

Here is some additional insight into the "Web protection" security provider in Windows 10:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/protect/forum/protect_defender-protect_scanning-windows_10/windows-defender-windows-security-web-protection/6ab606a9-a212-47f2-bbed-bfb8610e6d3e

Thank you for the feedback.

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