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mbae 1.12.1.109 blocking PaleMoon 28

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Just tried upgrading to the new PaleMoon v.28, but mbae 1.12.1.109  is blocking the program from fully loading --- it starts to load into memory, but then "drops out" of RAM.   When  I deactivate the PaleMoon shield in mbae, then PaleMoon runs normally.   Using  32-bit Windows 8.1

Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit.zip

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A bit more information (if it helps):   With MBAE "protecting" PM, event viewer documents the problem as

Faulting application name: palemoon.exe , version: 4.1.4.6793

Faulting module name: mozglue.dll

Exception code: 0x80000003
Fault offset: 0x00003686

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Just wondering:   since no one has replied here, is no one else experiencing this issue?

 

Edited by ky331

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6 hours ago, ky331 said:

A bit more information (if it helps):   With MBAE "protecting" PM, event viewer documents the problem as

Faulting application name: palemoon.exe
Faulting module name: mozglue.dll

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Just wondering:   since no one has replied here, is no one else experiencing this issue?

 

no problems here with the shield. Pale Moon is loading without any issues (Pale Moon 28.0.0 (x86))

Are you sure mozglue.dll isn't corrupted?

Edited by Skunk1966

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I'm not sure how to determine whether or not mozglue.dll is "corrupted"...

but I find it interesting that it's cited as the cause of "similar" problems with launching PaleMoon here:  https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19955&p=148339#p147846

Moonchild commented (later in that thread):  Mozglue.dll "is where the memory allocator lives and what ties most components together. The fact it crashes in that dll most likely means there's a memory inflation issue".

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Thanks for the offer, but I'll pass.   I have PM installed on two different systems... Win7 and Win8.1... so if I want, I can compare the files on these.

On Win7, I'm running MBAM 3 Pro, and had no problem using PaleMoon 28.   On win8.1, where I'm running the latest MBAE beta, that's where the problem occurred.

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3 minutes ago, ky331 said:

Thanks for the offer, but I'll pass.   I have PM installed on two different systems... Win7 and Win8.1... so if I want, I can compare the files on these.

On Win7, I'm running MBAM 3 Pro, and had no problem using PaleMoon 28.   On win8.1, where I'm running the latest MBAE beta, that's where the problem occurred.

On Pale Moon forum I've seen the same problem reported by people who are running Malwarebytes Premium with built-in Anti-Exploit module.

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I know... I've been following their forum and noticed that there too.

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have you tried reproducing it in a VM with clean installed Windows + Pale Moon without addons + Anti-Exploit? If not it's worth testing

 

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No, I haven't.   Nor do I intend to pursue this issue any further:

PM is currently my "third-choice" browser... I typically use either IE or FF.   Moreover, PM is working on my primary system (Win7).   I basically started this post as a "heads-up" to others, who I thought might be experiencing this same issue.    You've indicated you CAN run PM 28 with the latest MBAE shielding it... so it's clearly not a "universal" (cause and effect) problem.

Based on the general lack of response, I think I'm just gonna move on.   Thanks for your input.

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I still hope the cause can be found.

I'll install Windows 8.1 in a VM and will test during the week.

Can you provide a list off addons installed in Pale Moon?

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Pale Moon Extensions

Default Full Zoom Level 5.6.1-signed 

Encrypted Web 5.1.5

Lazaruns: Form Recovery 2.3.1-signed.1-signed

uBlock Origin 1.16.4.4

uBlock Origin Updater 1.6.3

WOT 20131118.1-signed

Plug-ins

Adobe Flash 30.0.0.154

Intel Identity Protection Technology 4.0.5.0 (Web Component & Updater)

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Computer Security Specs

32-bit Windows 8.1 (fully up-to-date with August 2018 updates), Panda 18.x Free Anti-Virus, Windows Firewall, OpenDNS Family Shield, SpywareBlaster, MVPS HOSTS file, MBAM Free 2.2.1.1043, MBAE Premium 1.12.1.109,  WinPatrol PLUS 32.0.2014.5 ,  Zemana AntiLogger Free 1.8.2.320,  CryptoPrevent 7.4.2

(I believe Panda was at 18.1 when I first upgraded to PM 28.0 ; it has since updated itself to 18.6 "Dome")

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I know you'll probably say it's overkill with all that security, but so far as I can tell, everything plays well together.   The bottom line:   PM 27.9.4 ran fine with all the extensions/add-ons/security cited above... the problems stated when I tried to update PM from 27.9.4 to 28.0.0.   I did so using the program's internal updater.   When PM wouldn't start, I thought maybe something went wrong, so I downloaded the full-installer and ran it.   Again, PM wouldn't start.   Disabling MBAE's shielding of PM is what worked for me.   And for the time being, that's how I'll keep it on my 8.1 system. 

P.S.   I ran a critical scan for viruses with Panda, and a threat-scan for malware with MBAM, and nothing showed on on either.

 

 

Edited by ky331

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MalwareBytes Anti-EXPLOIT  1.12.1.109  is NOT blocking PM 28.0.0.1 (on my 32-bit Win 8.1 system) [as it had been with PM 28.0]   So it appears that  they  fixed it on their end.

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