malwarebytes premium and trend-micro maximum security

[ezekial52787]

Will there be any problem running these together? so long as I add both to their own prospective exclusion lists? if there is any potential conflict, then could someone let me know what to look out for? before I end up screwing up my pc lol.

[lock]

Trend Micro by itself has 100% detection rate in AV Comparatives, in the last year.

I would say Trend Micro is enough.

Edited December 2, 2017 by lock

[ezekial52787]

2 minutes ago, lock said:

Trend Micro by itself has 100% detection rate in AV Comparatives, in the last year.

I would say Trend Micro is enough.

I get where you are coming from, but, regardless of what av-comparatives say, I still find that trend-micro does not detect some things, but I get special deals from them that make it cheap for me, so I use it, but due to what I said I want to use mbam premium as well. That's why I asked the question. I appreciate the advice though, but do you know the answer to what I asked?

[lock]

Trend Micro is a very complex antivirus so no mater what kind of exclusions you add, sooner or later you will run into trouble, not necessarily visible like BSOD , but slow system, non detection, etc.

MBAM works very well with a basic antivirus , like MSE . 

[AdvancedSetup]

Hello @ezekial52787

Yes, Malwarebytes is designed to work alongside all the major antivirus programs but all companies are often making changes to their programs to try to protect you better and at different times there can be conflicts. When that happens, sometimes exclusions will work, sometimes we have to work on our program or contact the other vendor to work on the issue.

Any antivirus program at one point or another will miss an infection. That does not make it a bad program. There are many professional coders out there working around the clock and creating and testing malware trying to bypass it.

Please read the following to get a better understanding

Thank you

Ron

 

 

[Sim_Theory]

Had tried to purchase Trend Micro via advice from a friend, 02/2019.  After Trend Micro Maximum Security 5 users 1 year for $50 dollars tried to force me to uninstall my paid version of malwarebytes, I cancelled and re installed everything else.  Had to uninstall then re install avg free, zone alarm fee, spybot s&d free, microsoft security essentials free, and then when it told me to uninstall malwarebytes paid, I backed out and re installed everything else.  I'm open to better product suggestions from this board but one thing is for certain, I'm not getting rid of Malwarebytes, it's been effective for several years for me and I like it.  Every time I tried to install Trend Micro, go through the download, wait, unpack the files, wait, analyze, wait, then get told not compatible must uninstall other software (work arounds like temporary off of these other programs did not work.)  When I tried to send an email to trend.cs@digitalriver.com, the address my Trend Micro email based order receipt was sent from, it rejected my sending return email.  I called in to cancel and was routed to a customer service agent in the Philippines.  No American to speak with, no email to send to, the csr suggested she'll handle my concerns.  I was asked to suffer phone based tech support with people who have only basic english speaking skills, while being asked to trust a single security system for everything, with automatic auto payment enroll.  Does not fly, would not recommend.   Their order management screen was so rudimentary with the 'find my order' site, that although I clicked cancel and opt out of auto pay, I was never sure if that processed or not.  If they can't handle putting together the billing and management web pages properly, and have to outsource phone service, one can only imagine what other problems they'd run into the future.  Personally I appreciate some overlapping security because like other posters stated, there is always the issue of code writing and tech people keeping up with the times.  Who cares about resource drain on single home based pc's, entirely more than I need in the first place.  As a rule of thumb I'd never recommend an all in one security suite.  I thought trend micro would make a nice compliment, perhaps sub a few of my freeware items out.  I had no idea it would demand that I uninstall everything and would not install itself unless I did so.  Nothing drives American consumers away faster than being told we must suffer non english speaking tech support, can't speak to Americans, and get bossed around regarding our product choices.  Not a good way to try and corner the diverse tech market.  Also, I like the monthly emails from malwarebytes, they keep me up to date and are not overbearing in terms of volume of email.  I've never tried to call into malwarebytes, but if I ever have to do so and I"m unable to speak to an American, despite how much I like this program, I'll cancel that as well.  The past decade has brought great trends back to the USA, a return to American based customer service, literate people we can fluently communicate with, better tech and better tech management pages and platforms, and we thought we were finally done with the overseas aol crew.  Outsourcing does not fly.  There are fully truthful articles about how those same 'tech support people' in other countries, bounce from a legitimate telecom day jobs to a second night job where their legally paid position is quite literally to scam American consumers over the phone.  There are long detailed disclosure articles on this so smart consumers simply reject all overseas phone support as a rule of thumb these days.  Emerging legislation stateside also is being brought forth which would establish this as a consumer right, you would be allowed to demand an American customer service representative help you.  I'm worried avg and zone free versions are getting irrelevant, I've surfed ninite but there are like so many choices.  Recommendations?  Picked up a new big deal router just to be on the safe side, and also turned the s&d tea timer back on.  Should I just get the paid S&D, paid avg, what should I choose to beef up a little more?  Thought TrendMicro would be the solution, all the way until it demanded I uninstall malwarebytes, that's when they lost me.  I do not want all in one solutions, already played that game with norton 15 years ago and am never going back.  Thank you.

[Sim_Theory]

Just helpful follow up request.  Moderator should force downsize uploaded photos so they're click into, in order to expand, and are otherwise thumb sized on the board.  Never looks good when uploaded images auto expand on the board.  Simple settings for better forum management and easier readability. Thank you.

[exile360]

Many users are running with Windows Defender (Windows 8/8.1/10) or Microsoft Security Essentials (Windows 7) alongside Malwarebytes and I've also seen a good number of users running Avast Free, ESET, Kaspersky, AVG, Bitdefender among others.  Any of these should be good choices if you want an AV to supplement Malwarebytes.  You can also install the new Malwarebytes browser extension beta if you haven't already as it blocks some items in addition to what the Web Protection component in Malwarebytes Premium does:

Chrome
Firefox

You can also use a HOSTS file (though I believe this is more difficult if you're using Windows 10, though you did mention MSE so I'm guessing you're on Windows 7) or a tool such as HostsMan to use/combine multiple HOSTS files from various sources for blocking malware/ads/trackers etc. (mine is currently up to nearly 900,000 entries so far).

Also, if you aren't already, you can install a front-end to the Windows Firewall to gain outbound blocking/control/prompting for programs attempting to access the web.  In fact, Binisoft, who makes Windows Firewall Control which is one such program, was recently acquired by Malwarebytes and there are other options such as TinyWall and Sphinx Software's Windows 10 Firewall Control (works with all Windows versions since Vista in spite of it's name and is what I'm currently using on Windows 7).  Here's a short list of free offerings:

• Malwarebytes Binisoft Windows Firewall Control
• Windows 10 Firewall Control (they have a free version there which is completely adequate in my opinion and it's what I myself use and have used for years, ever since the days of Windows Vista)
• Windows Firewall Notifier
• TinyWall
• Simplewall
• Free Firewall
  

Besides that, a good ad blocker for your browser such as Adblock Plus or uBlock Origin and you might also consider one or more privacy related plugins/extensions such as Ghostery and Disconnect.

[Sim_Theory]

Exile, dude, thank you so much.  Great information and I will be looking into a few of those.  Probably will take in Malwarebytes associated ones first.

For all the headaches over the years, I like how easy Malwarebytes is to use, and how simple it is to identify when something is not on properly, etc, etc.

The malicious site block and the outbound alert and auto block are my favorite features.  Just as long as malwarebytes does not get political like this ridiculous new newsgaurd approach and such, we'll be all good.  I am after all, a daily IW and drudge reader, have been for a very long time.

Yeah, holding onto win7 pro like my life depends on it.  Picked up one of the last available high end towers at costco a few years ago.  I read up extensively on the telemetry and auto cloud options and such for 10. 

When I set up my wifes computer (10) I had like 30+ specific optional actions or something I had to meticulously document in allowable processes, opt outs, all of that.  What a hassle.  Still can't get her flash to work right, despite following all help procedures and sometimes she needs to do things like language testing for online classes on my computer, simply won't work on the 10 with all the restrictions I applied.  Unintended consequences of process lock downs.  Tried all these browsers, work arounds are getting more difficult as time passes.

And I do just absolutely love the adblock extension, and use an array of java and flash block now and then as well.  About;config in mozilla is not very fun, but that''s what you have to deal with lately.  I think I probably have the web browser mwbytes extension already, have to look into that.  Would appreciate all available options in an additional management tab though, and that would be great to know what I'm missing because who has the time.  We take in these programs, update them, hope it works out for as long as possible.  Normal users are not paid to develop or test, so lately one consistently unrealistic expectation of tech companies has been the notion that users find updating cool, rather than a complete hassle we wish they'd just automate somehow.  Computers are simply no fun anymore and I limit my usage time whenever possible.

Would appreciate detailed articles on how 10 is doing with privacy concerns.  Personally I don't like hamburger menu's so that alone is enough to put me off from a lot of choices.  Would also appreciate a now and then malwarebytes news update on end of life 7 concerns because if nothing better comes out, I'm just not sure what I'll do.  10 is definitely not for me, I'd still be on XP if that was an option.

Just between you and me, hamburger menus are there so they can sell more items to illiterate users and this mobile adaptability keeps ruining one quality website after another.  The industry is forgetting about pc users at a breathtaking pace. 

Thanks again.

[Sim_Theory]

On 12/2/2017 at 8:05 PM, AdvancedSetup said:

Any antivirus program at one point or another will miss an infection. That does not make it a bad program. There are many professional coders out there working around the clock and creating and testing malware trying to bypass it.

Please read the following to get a better understanding

Thank you

Ron

 

 

Holy smokes, there is a lot of good information in that link.  I'd need a dang language index to keep up with a hefty portion of that...

I trust you guys are keeping us safe, and the $X per year cost is reasonable.

I don't like to review the critics 'grading' of software, not so much.  It's helpful but has it's limits.

A stronger sales approach for a laymen like me would be;  how large is your testing and support staff compared to theirs? 

It's coming down to man hours lately, everyone and their mother thinks they are a hacker lately.

But what is a hacker in 2019, specifically?  That would make a great article.  Who, where, why, how, when?  Perspective is important.  As tech continues to advance at an exponential pace it gets more and more time consuming to dare to keep up.  The major successful tech companies are hopefully already implementing outreach programs and free to use training videos and such so the kids can learn.  We love youtube downloader in this regard, my 5 & 7 year old girls have their own little pc and they click on demand whatever I've taken in for them, in a safe strictly offline environment.  We've got old bob ross painting vids, language teaching, spelling bees, how to make paper airplanes, solve rubix, crash course physics is one we took in recently which is really great and I just love the crash course free to use model.

I miss the super lock down slider bars and pop ups which add individual permissions as requested.  I don't mind the initial rush of process approval pop ups.  These days I just physically unplug the ethernet wire and try to figure something out if possible.  Since I've had malwarebytes, 2 or 3 years now, it's made it easy and I know at least a dozen or more times it has saved me from unintended site redirects, outbound packets from old pups somehow identified in old backup folders, etc, etc.

Thank you.

[exile360]

Yeah, I'm taking a hard pass on Windows 10 as well.  In fact, part of choosing my current system was to get pretty much the newest, most powerful hardware I could that is still fully compatible with Windows 7 (though I did have to implement a third party tool to prevent MS from artificially blocking access to Windows Updates due to my CPU being too "modern" even though there is literally no architectural difference between my generation of CPU and the ones that preceded it which are not restricted from receiving updates except for my part's higher clock speeds so any sort of incompatibility is an absolute impossibility).  I've also done research on other hardware platforms which are even more powerful that are compatible with 7 just in case I need to build a new, more powerful system in the future (though quite unlikely given the current direction of things, with battery life and efficiency taking priority over speed and raw processing power these days; one irony being that most resource intensive applications, including most games, actually run better/faster on 7 with DX11 than they do on 10 with DX12).  I also block all of Microsoft's telemetry servers via my HOSTS file and the Windows Firewall and have either removed, disabled or straight up crippled every remote, sharing and unnecessary networking protocol other than just the bare essentials to connect to the internet securely.  I also have my custom tweaks and system configuration modifications that I deploy on my system every time I install Windows which helps both with security and performance.

As for information about what's going on in the security space and the current threat landscape, you might want to keep an eye on the Malwarebytes Blog which is part of the Malwarebytes Labs initiative, a vast technical resource for experts and novices alike to learn and stay up to date on the latest threats and industry trends.  They regularly post new articles and technical analyses on the latest scams, threats, exploits, vulnerabilities, PUPs, privacy risks and countless other topics related to this space so if you want to keep track of what's going on out there on the big bad web, that's a great place to start and return to regularly.