PatFenis Posted September 23, 2017 ID:1166565 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Hello, Im new at this forum so thx for future help and sorry for my english. 2 days ago I experienced strange things on PC, sudden data oppening, random program starting, in game crashed, net speed slow down, CD rom opening, PC shut down even if my antivirus was on (Eset smart security). Didnt download anything, only problem that I though it was was CCleaner. So I fast checked procceses and there was strange apps starting all over again. Scanned comp, nothing, downloaded malwarebytes / Rkill / Roguekiller / Combofix and only Combofix found something but once deleted they are back up after reboot. So I just took my Win7 installation disc and Re installed windows / formated HD cause I was hoping it will fix problem but nothing. Even on start of windows PC was writing and picking options. I somehow managed to get on startup, download antivirus and again nothing. Reinstalled 3 times and again same thing. Some strange $Recycle.bin spawn in 2 partitions. Dllhost.exe is active in task manager so I dont know if there's any connection. Also I noticed that in every program or file in Properties/Security there is TrustedInstaller with all privileges. Plz help, lost all my data. Edited September 23, 2017 by PatFenis Fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David H. Lipman Posted September 23, 2017 ID:1166567 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Please reference: Recycle Bin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatFenis Posted September 23, 2017 Author ID:1166569 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Thx for answer, I get it, its normal, just though its somehow associated with virus because that file was not there earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David H. Lipman Posted September 23, 2017 ID:1166572 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) The OS marks the construct as a part of the System and is Hidden. This is not a virus. That's a faux conclusion. In fact on 99% of malicious files calling it a "virus" is a faux conclusion. The terminology "virus" is overly used and very much abused. All viruses are malware but not all malware are viruses. The vast majority of malware are trojans. To be a virus the malicious code must be able to self replicate. That is to be a virus the code must be able to spread from "file to file", "file to system" , "system to system" or "system to file" autonomously. Trojans need assistance to spread. Malware does not create the Recycle Bin. It is an Operating System Construct. You stated " its somehow associated with virus ". No malware has been identified to draw that conclusion. Edited September 23, 2017 by David H. Lipman Spelling, Grammar and Clarification Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatFenis Posted September 23, 2017 Author ID:1166573 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 minute ago, David H. Lipman said: The OS marks the construct as a part of the System and is Hidden. This is not a virus. That's a faux conclusion. In fact on 99% of malicious files calling it a "virus" is a faux conclusion. The terminology "virus" is overly used and very much abused. All viruses are malware but not all malware are viruses. the vast majority of malware are trojans. to be a virus the malicious code must be able to self replicate. That is to be a virus the code must be able to spread from "file to file" or "file to system" or "system to system" or "system to file" autonomously. Trojans need assistance to spread. Malware does not create the Recycle Bin. It is an Operating System Construct. You stated " its somehow associated with virus ". No malware has been identified to draw that conclusion. 13 minutes ago, David H. Lipman said: Please reference: Recycle Bin Ok. But what could couse all this problems? What else should I do to normally start windows. Im writing from my friends PC atm because I just cant control mine. Cant even write because something is changing my letters, exiting pages, re opening etc. The more Im logged , more things are broken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David H. Lipman Posted September 23, 2017 ID:1166574 Share Posted September 23, 2017 You'd have to post the exact problems as they occur and analyze each. If you reinstalled the OS, it's too late. Is this a Desktop or Notebook/Laptop computer ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatFenis Posted September 23, 2017 Author ID:1166581 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Desktop computer . Well even after reinstall, problem is still the same. I explained all exact problems. Random tabs, pages and folder openings. Deleting, writing, Cd rom openning, shutting down PC. After reinstall of windows it writes name of PC , puts password and dont let me change anything. Can it be possible that it infiltrated the bios? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David H. Lipman Posted September 23, 2017 ID:1166584 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) None of those symptoms are from malware. Malware is either stealthy such that it can perform the objective of the payload in secrecy for as long as possible or is self evident, such as the subtype of trojans called "adware", by Pop-Ups, consistent redirection to specific sites, etc. There is a subtype of semi-malicious utilities that are classed as "Jokes". They may open a CD/DVD drive, etc. There is no malware that resides in the BIOS at this time. If you think you are truly infected we will close this thread and you'll create a new post requesting that you need assistance in verify if your PC is infected or not. In that post, do not post any conclusions. Just post that you request assistance in verifying your system and nothing else. Edited September 23, 2017 by David H. Lipman Spelling, Grammar and Clarification Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatFenis Posted September 23, 2017 Author ID:1166587 Share Posted September 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, David H. Lipman said: None of those symptoms are from malware. Malware is either stealthy such that it can perform the objective of the payload in secrecy for as long as possible or is self evident, such as the subtype of trojans called "adware", by Pop-Ups, consistent redirection to specific sites, etc. There is a subtype of semi-malicious utilities that are classed as "Jokes". They may open a CD/DVD drive, etc. There is no malware that resides in the BIOS at this time. If you think you are truly infected we will close this thread and you'll create a new post requesting that you need assistance in verify if your PC is infected or not. In that post, do not post any conclusions. Just post that you request assistance in verifying your system and nothing else. Thx, will do. You can close this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David H. Lipman Posted September 23, 2017 ID:1166590 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) OK - Good Luck Edited September 23, 2017 by David H. Lipman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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