edgewin Posted February 2, 2016 ID:1017217 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I have an older computer with XP that I want to get running for my kids to play with but it would not boot. I have pulled the hard drive and can access it through a black widow docking station. it is showing as a healthy drive and all tests I know to run (which are just basics) are saying that there are no corrupt files. I can access all files on the drive but I am unsure how to run FARBAR on just that drive as it is plugged in through a usb port. I have run several virus scans, also MBAM to no avail. There were several Trojans and adware programs that were found and removed but still wont boot up. Is this something you can help with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinf80 Posted February 2, 2016 ID:1017242 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Which Version of XP do you have.... Also which service pack level. SP1, 2 or 3 Do you have the XP installation CD, if so does it have any service packs. Have you tried to boot in Safe mode? Thank you, Kevin... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgewin Posted February 2, 2016 Author ID:1017265 Share Posted February 2, 2016 It was XP Professional SP2 I believe. I don't think it had been upgraded to SP3. I do not have the disks to reinstall it either. They were lost in one of the several moves I have made since I bought it. When I try to boot it up, I get the screen that shows windows loading where I would push F2 for safe mode and the screen goes black before it can finish loading with nothing at all on the screen. This occurs if I push F2, F12 for setup options, or let it try to load on its own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinf80 Posted February 2, 2016 ID:1017278 Share Posted February 2, 2016 See if you can force a BSOD and see what is wrong:Select the ON button, as the PC starts tap on the F8 key and continue tapping until you are presented with the "Windows Advanced Options Menu" screen.Use the UP/DOWN arrow keys to select "Disable automatic restart on system failure" then tap the ENTER key.The operating system will attempt to restart normally, after restart it will crash. The screen will freeze and you will see a BSOD with an error message.Copy the error message details (contained in the areas outlined in red, in the above example image), and post in your reply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgewin Posted February 3, 2016 Author ID:1017293 Share Posted February 3, 2016 This does the same thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgewin Posted February 3, 2016 Author ID:1017294 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Sorry same thing as in the screen goes black before it gets to any of the options to load in safe mode or disable auto restart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinf80 Posted February 3, 2016 ID:1017347 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Download XP recovery console and burn to a CD from here: https://web.archive.org/web/20130925012049/www.thecomputerparamedic.com/files/rc.iso Boot the PC from CD, when open do the following: It may ask you which Windows installation, if you have only 1, press 1It will ask for an administrator password, if you don't have, simply press ENTERThen, run;CHKDSK C: /R Allow it to finish, remove the CD try to boot normally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgewin Posted February 3, 2016 Author ID:1017385 Share Posted February 3, 2016 When attempting this, it made it to the windows screen then went black, it did not show the whole thinking process like it normally would, but after waiting it booted up to the point that it showed the user and wanted a password (which the account it's on does not have one, only the admin). Then the screen goes black again before I could even hit enter. It seems as though the computer is working, disk is spinning, hard drive is thinking. I hit enter to see if it would continue with its process but the screen remained black, disk stopped after a while. Is it possible that something caused the screen to go out so that it only works momentarily on start up? Should I connect it to another computer to test the screen through the back of the computer via a cable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinf80 Posted February 3, 2016 ID:1017415 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Do you mean when trying to boot from the recovery console CD, or have you booted successfully from RC and ran CHKDSK C: /R command... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgewin Posted February 3, 2016 Author ID:1017417 Share Posted February 3, 2016 When trying to boot from the cd that i made from the download, it did get to the logon screen but then goes to the black screen before I could press enter to log on. It did not ask me which windows installation I wanted. It did not ask me for an admin password. It did not give me the opportunity to run CHKDSK C: /R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinf80 Posted February 3, 2016 ID:1017422 Share Posted February 3, 2016 You will need to change the boot order in the BIOS to make CD/DVD 1st in boot order list. Usually as you boot you have to select either F2, F12 or Del key to access BIOS and change boot order.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgewin Posted February 3, 2016 Author ID:1017444 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I can get it to where it says that it is supposed to load from the cd but it still tries to load the same way and then goes black. Also I have a windows 7 disk that I thought just for the heck of it I would see if it would try to load it and it does the same thing as using the rescue disk or loading off the hard drive. Not sure if that helps you any. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinf80 Posted February 4, 2016 ID:1017447 Share Posted February 4, 2016 When you Boot with the CD in the tray and CD/DVD is definitely 1st in boot order you should see a black screen with select any key to boot from CD/DVD in the top left corner, a timer runs. If you do not press any key the 2nd entry in the boot order then takes priority.. Do you see the option to select any key to boot from CD/DVD at boot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgewin Posted February 4, 2016 Author ID:1017474 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I have tried every combination possible over and over again and I cannot get it to boot the cd/dvd and give me the option to select any key. The screen just goes black. I am lucky if I can catch it soon enough after hitting F12 to even give me the option to load from the cd/dvd before the screen turns black and stays that way. The computer is running the cd/dvd but it just wont show it on the screen. I can feel the cd/dvd drive running. Is it possible to hook the hard drive up as a secondary on my other computer and run the recovery on it that way. I know I can access it, I went in and ran virus scans and took the files I wanted off of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinf80 Posted February 4, 2016 ID:1017495 Share Posted February 4, 2016 The problem of a black screen cutting in very quickly could be indicative of a video card problem, is the video card seperate or integrated into the Motherboard. If it is a seperate entity maybe is worthwhile pulling the card, give a clean then reseating, or if possible try the card in another PC, or try a video card from another PC into the sick PC.... It does seem that the PC is trying to boot... You mention running scans on the HD from another PC, do you have any logs or information to show what was actually removed. The recovery console CD is a self booting system, if we cannot get past the black screen issue then we are more or less stumped... Cheers, Kevin.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgewin Posted February 4, 2016 Author ID:1017526 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Windows defender pulled several out as well when I ran it from another computer. Not sure if there is a history where it stores past scans on that, I was not able to find it. I am going to pop my other dell apart and see if the video card is the same, it is separate on the machine I am working on. I will get back with you when I find out if the card is the issuekapersky1.txtnorton.txt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinf80 Posted February 4, 2016 ID:1017541 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I do not see anything in those logs that would cause the current problem.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgewin Posted February 5, 2016 Author ID:1017675 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Update:Connected to my tv for an external monitor and it shows that it is trying to boot. Here are the steps I took I booted the PC from the CD/DVD drive.It says to hit any key, so I did,It says loading setup Received the following after it finished Technical information: *** STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005, oxF76120BF, 0xF7A5E208, 0xF7A5DF08) *** pci.sys - Address F76120BF base at F760B000, Datestamp 3b7d855c It did not say anything about a page fault in non paged area at the top like your response in #4 above shows It does however suggest disabling bios memory options such as caching or shadowing, if this helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinf80 Posted February 5, 2016 ID:1017731 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Those stop codes could very well indicate a hardware problem, maybe bad ram.... Can you remove the Recovery Console CD and just try to boot the PC when connected to the TV, what happens? i`d also run a test on the PC ram, you can download MemTest86 from here: http://www.memtest86.com/ burn to a CD, you can boot from the CD, it is self supporting... You would need to connected to the TV... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinf80 Posted February 9, 2016 ID:1018387 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Any progress? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgewin Posted February 11, 2016 Author ID:1018805 Share Posted February 11, 2016 sorry I have not had a chance to work on it. I got busy with college and wanted to let you know that I will get back with you as soon as I can get to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinf80 Posted February 11, 2016 ID:1018808 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Ok, thanks for the update.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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