Root Admin AdvancedSetup Posted January 22, 2015 Root Admin ID:931839 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Looks like I'll need to split off my older years into an archive backup drive (already have 3 drives with the same data) and just keep the current year going forward on a new set of drives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David H. Lipman Posted January 22, 2015 ID:931847 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I guess it is hard keeping a RAW image portfolio with a mufti-megapixel SLRs. You may want to think about RAID5 using 5 x 2TB drives (8TB) or 5 x 1TB drives (4TB). This way you'll have speed of access, fault tolerance and breathing space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin AdvancedSetup Posted January 23, 2015 Author Root Admin ID:931954 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Have looked at many solutions and all of the are out of my price range being a non paid photographer. I could probably turn some into paid work but already too busy to add another job to the list. Almost no one does RAID5 anymore - very slow and found to be potentially dangerous for recovery in certain situations. Single drive and backups is fine for me. Most 2TB drives are less than $100 versus "real" solutions that are thousands of dollars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefox Posted January 23, 2015 ID:932348 Share Posted January 23, 2015 That's a lot of pictures....Here is 12 TB solution.... http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Buffalo-TeraStation-12TB-ES-NAS-server/2620725.aspx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David H. Lipman Posted January 24, 2015 ID:932385 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Certainly cost effective and not "thousands of dollars" and is using RAID. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin AdvancedSetup Posted January 24, 2015 Author Root Admin ID:932464 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Well what's crazy is that CDW seems to have the lowest price which is unheard of. They typically have one of the higher prices around. However the bigger issue with these type of units is they're proprietary and if you have a failure on the system or connector you probably cannot just pull the drives out of the units and put them into something else to do a recovery. That and RAID takes special software to do recovery (though not too worried about that as I have software for that already). But I've used similar drives and had them go dead and little to no real support for getting your data back. They may replace the unit but you're on your own for recovery. Part of what I like about the 2TB drive is it's small and almost fits in a pants pocket does not require AC power just USB power from a system. So I use 3 of them that I keep in sync almost daily. I have a main one that travels with me between work and home and I have 1 at work and 1 at home that get synched to this master one. So $300 and no fear about recovery loss as 2 other drives have the same data. So will probably just take the 2 drives and put away for safe keeping. 1 at work 1 at home. Then buy 2 new drives and copy just the 2014 and 2015 images to each and continue doing as I've been doing for years now. You can read many horror stories of people with failed Drobo and other proprietary units. My solution is not "techie" but it works. Having a backup at work, at home, and during travel keeps me reasonably data safe for a cheap price. Crazy how people spout off using online solutions for backup. Try uploading or downloading anything over 50GB and come back in month and let me know how successful you were, let alone TB of data. WD My Passport Ultra 2TB Portable External USB 3.0 Hard Drive with Auto Backup - Black $93.99 http://www.amazon.com/Passport-Ultra-Portable-External-Backup/dp/B00E055H5O The Myth of Online Backup http://www.forbes.com/sites/tonybradley/2013/07/23/the-myth-of-online-backup/ I’m Done with drobo http://scottkelby.com/2012/im-done-with-drobo/ NEVER Use A RAID As Your Backup System http://www.petemarovichimages.com/2013/11/24/never-use-a-raid-as-your-backup-system/ Seagate STBD6000100 6TB 128MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Retail Kit $259.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178520 $244 at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Desktop-3-5-Inch-Internal-STBD6000100/dp/B00JBJ34WC http://www.g-technology.com/ Backblaze Storage Pod 2.0: a 135-terabyte, 4U server for $7,384. https://www.backblaze.com/blog/petabytes-on-a-budget-v2-0revealing-more-secrets-2/ http://www.45drives.com/ https://www.synology.com/en-us/ https://www.synology.com/en-us/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefox Posted January 28, 2015 ID:933642 Share Posted January 28, 2015 So good info there Ron.... I have had pretty good luck with those TeraStations, I had one drive go out, I replaced it with another and it rebuild on its own. I can see your point though, that if the whole unit goes out, then your SOL.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David H. Lipman Posted January 28, 2015 ID:933645 Share Posted January 28, 2015 The Myth of Online Backuphttp://www.forbes.com/sites/tonybradley/2013/07/23/the-myth-of-online-backup/ I think I'll highlight that but not comment on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin AdvancedSetup Posted January 28, 2015 Author Root Admin ID:933646 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Yes auto rebuild of the array is normal behavior for most well designed systems but the proprietary nature of their controller means you have to have another unit in order to do data recovery if the first has a unit error and the drives themselves are still good. If I was making money at it and had more data then I'd have to look into something better. If I was making money I'd probably pop for LTO-5 tape backups. Historically tape has been the best long term medium for recovery. Just not economical for home users. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin AdvancedSetup Posted January 28, 2015 Author Root Admin ID:933647 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I think I'll highlight that but not comment on that. winky1.gif Did you read the article ? I'm in full agreement with that. Smaller amounts of data ok but TBs of data - no way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 28, 2015 ID:933652 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Good reading material for me to do in the near future. I have been using a 1TB Buffalo TeraStation since 2006 (24x7). Have replaced two IDE drives, but a third one went south with a power glitch. Many moons ago, I bought a newer version TeraStation and lost the whole thing with a power glitch. When TS#1 had a problem with the third drive, I started thinking about the 8+ years of good luck I have had with it, and decided I needed to plan more for the future and be less thankful for the past. I bought a 4TB TeraStation after strong recommendations from Malwarebytes users. That doesn't mean I should rest on laurels though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin AdvancedSetup Posted January 28, 2015 Author Root Admin ID:933663 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Nope it means that you now have 4TB of data that if not fully backed up somewhere else is at a high risk of potential full unrecoverable loss without spending excessive amounts of money to get that data back. If 2 drives fail at the same time (I've had 3 fail at the same time before on raided systems) then the chances of data recover are almost impossible. So back to original - if not backed up onto another system then it must not be important data. There is the rub for me as a good raided system is still somewhat expensive and in my case and in my belief you'd need another similar unit then the cost is just too much for me to swallow (it's still personal home use not business use where I'm making money on it). Just for reference Backup Software More reading but some good software there too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David H. Lipman Posted January 28, 2015 ID:933808 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Did you read the article ? Of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin AdvancedSetup Posted April 8, 2015 Author Root Admin ID:954307 Share Posted April 8, 2015 The Buffalo station has a newer model now. http://www.buffalotech.com/products/network-storage/professional-and-business-class/terastation-1400 http://www.provantage.com/buffalo-technology-ts1400d1204~7BFLO067.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daledoc1 Posted April 8, 2015 ID:954311 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Under $1100, too!Bargain! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin AdvancedSetup Posted April 8, 2015 Author Root Admin ID:954312 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Actually just ordered one for work Net Order: $787.57 Sales Tax: $70.87 Shipping: $16.76 Total: $875.20 Not bad for 12TB of storage that includes the drives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefox Posted April 8, 2015 ID:954317 Share Posted April 8, 2015 That looks like a sweet deal... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daledoc1 Posted April 8, 2015 ID:954339 Share Posted April 8, 2015 The 16 TB is the one for $1100.Still, it's a good deal, when one considers how much these things used to cost. BTW, is Buffalo a reliable brand for home-use USB EHDs?(No, I don't wish to hijack the thread, of course. Just a quickie "thumb's up" or "thumb's down" will suffice. ) Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin AdvancedSetup Posted April 9, 2015 Author Root Admin ID:954361 Share Posted April 9, 2015 All of them have Pros and Cons daledoc1. The drives used are often the same (only a few driver mfg these days) they do make for green energy, video, NAS, Enterprise, etc. but seems that regardless of "type" there is no guarantee of longevity of the drive. I have drives that cost $79 years ago and are still running. I have drives I've paid almost $1,000 for that have died in less than a year so I take most of that with a grain of salt. We have an Enterprise Nimble storage area network that cost about $70K and I've lost probably 5 or 6 drives in the unit in the past 3 years. They monitor it though and fedex overnight a new drive to me when it happens. The system can actually lose 3 drives without losing data. Most can only lose 2 drives. Home units typically can only lose 1 drive before you lose the data Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daledoc1 Posted April 9, 2015 ID:954429 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefox Posted April 9, 2015 ID:954536 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I have used a buffalo nas here at work for about 5 years now and have only had one drive fail on it, easy replacement too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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