How much longer will the old version of MBAM continue to be updated?

[giantbender]

I had some problems with MBAM 2 earlier this year so I am using version 1. I want to know how much longer version 1 will continue to be updated. I read earlier this year it was July, however I searched just now and read the FAQ on the website and I can't find this information. Thank you

[daledoc1]

March 2015 was the last I heard.

 

Staff will correct me if that has changed.

[gonzo]

There are no program updates planned for 1.75.  That is the end of the 1.x road.

 

Support for version 1.75 will end on March 24, 2015, which is one year after the release of 2.0.

 

Database updates will continue to be created, as they serve both 1.75 and 2.x.

[exile360]

One additional note. Already there are several database components not used by 1.75 because its engine does not have all of the same features as 2.x, including rootkit detection and removal, repair of damage to system components caused by rootkits and several enhancements to Malwarebytes Anti-Malware's heuristics and standard malware detection capabilities. Version 1.75 does not offer the same level of protection as 2.0 does, even with database updates.

[giantbender]

Thanks for the information guys. exile360 version 2 just wasn't as stable on my system whereas version 1 is fine so I'm going to stay with that as long as possible and hope that in Mar 2015 when I have to upgrade the problems I had are fixed.

[Firefox]

If you install version 2.0 and are having issues just come back here and let us know what the issues are and more than likely we can help you sort them out....

[gonzo]

Database updates are database updates, unless we change the organization and/or delivery method of the databases.  There are no plans to do that, so this aspect will continue long past March 24, 2015.

 

Support (in this context) means tickets responded to by Malwarebytes Technical Support via the existing support channels.  In this context, the forums are a separate entity.  Support will still be offered in the forums, although users of grossly antiquated versions may be "nudged" towards newer versions.  They will still be supported in the forums by forum participants as it is right now.  The one difference I can see with regard to forums is that nobody will be asking users of MB 1.75 and below to open a support ticket after March 24, 2015.

[giantbender]

Database updates are database updates, unless we change the organization and/or delivery method of the databases.  There are no plans to do that, so this aspect will continue long past March 24, 2015.

 

Support (in this context) means tickets responded to by Malwarebytes Technical Support via the existing support channels.  In this context, the forums are a separate entity.  Support will still be offered in the forums, although users of grossly antiquated versions may be "nudged" towards newer versions.  They will still be supported in the forums by forum participants as it is right now.  The one difference I can see with regard to forums is that nobody will be asking users of MB 1.75 and below to open a support ticket after March 24, 2015.

 

Hi March 24, 2015 is approaching and I'm writing to follow up to make sure it's still the case that MB 1.75 will get database updates for the forseeable future. Thanks

[gonzo]

Version 1.75 will still get database updates for the forseeable future.  That is not in jeopardy.  A bigger question (in my mind) is how long you -- as a 1.75 user -- would be able to get support looking into the future.  The reliability questions of the original 2.0 release have been put to rest AND it offers better protection, so while you have a comfort level with this version, you would be better served with an upgrade.  THAT is up to you.

[bdg2]

I am continuing with 1.75 on a few very old less used PCs (where it's not worth paying for pro or premium). This is because there is no quick scan in the free version of 2.x and the full scan takes hours on these old PCs.

[daledoc1]

Hi:
 

This is because there is no quick scan in the free version of 2.x

 

Actually, that's not correct.

 

The scans were renamed in version 2.x
The equivalent of the "Quick" scan in version 1.x is the Threat scan in version 2.x
 
"Flash" is now "Hyper"
"Quick" is now "Threat"
"Full" is now "Custom"

Hyper scan is available only to paid, PREMIUM users and is not routinely needed or recommended -- if anything is found, a subsequent Threat scan will be needed anyway. (This was/is also the case for the "Flash" scan in version 1.x)
THREAT scan is the most important and most useful scan -- it is the one that ought be run on a regular basis (daily is the default setting now in 2.0).
Custom depends on what drives, folders and files are selected -- routine use of a "full" system scan is neither necessary nor recommended, as it's a task better suited to your antivirus.

 

and the full scan takes hours on these old PCs.

First, routine use of "Full" or "Custom" scans is neither necessary nor recommended -- it is a task better suited to your anti-virus.
Second, the longer scan times reflect the more thorough scanning process of version 2.x.
Finally, there are many factors that determine scan times -- some of these can be adjusted by changing MBAM's settings (such as anti-rootkit scanning), and some cannot (because they relate to the system's hardware/software/configuration).

 

Here is a partial list:

Size of disk
Disk type
Disk speed
Disk caching
CPU speed
Controller type and speed
Operating System version
Number of files (including temp files!)
Number of folders
Number of archived files such as zip, rar, sfx, etc. (if this is enabled)
Rootkit scan or not (if this is enabled)
PUM/PUP scans
Other security programs running at the same time that may potentially be monitoring all file accesses by any other process.
Drive integrity - if a drive is failing it can take a long time to ignore and bypass sectors on a disk or simply fail period and hang the scan.
Other ongoing disk I/O processes
System infection
MBAM database size.

 

The decision to stay with 1.75 because of shorter scan times is certainly up to you.

But support for the version will end eventually.

 

Thank you,

[bdubrow]

To clarify, the question of continued support for the Malwarebytes Anti-Malware 1.75 has come up a couple times recently in here in the forums.

 

Here's one of the posts that quotes the official statement of support for 1.75. 

[bdg2]

I am continuing with 1.75 on a few very old less used PCs (where it's not worth paying for pro or premium). This is because there is no quick scan in the free version of 2.x and the full scan takes hours on these old PCs.

 

To clarify. I couldn't find anything in 2.x that completed scanning anywhere as quickly as quick scan does in 1.75.

 

Hi:

 

 

Actually, that's not correct.

 

The scans were renamed in version 2.x

The equivalent of the "Quick" scan in version 1.x is the Threat scan in version 2.x

 

"Flash" is now "Hyper"

"Quick" is now "Threat"

"Full" is now "Custom"

Hyper scan is available only to paid, PREMIUM users and is not routinely needed or recommended -- if anything is found, a subsequent Threat scan will be needed anyway. (This was/is also the case for the "Flash" scan in version 1.x)

THREAT scan is the most important and most useful scan -- it is the one that ought be run on a regular basis (daily is the default setting now in 2.0).

Custom depends on what drives, folders and files are selected -- routine use of a "full" system scan is neither necessary nor recommended, as it's a task better suited to your antivirus.

 

First, routine use of "Full" or "Custom" scans is neither necessary nor recommended -- it is a task better suited to your anti-virus.

Second, the longer scan times reflect the more thorough scanning process of version 2.x.

Finally, there are many factors that determine scan times -- some of these can be adjusted by changing MBAM's settings (such as anti-rootkit scanning), and some cannot (because they relate to the system's hardware/software/configuration).

 

Here is a partial list:

Size of disk

Disk type

Disk speed

Disk caching

CPU speed

Controller type and speed

Operating System version

Number of files (including temp files!)

Number of folders

Number of archived files such as zip, rar, sfx, etc. (if this is enabled)

Rootkit scan or not (if this is enabled)

PUM/PUP scans

Other security programs running at the same time that may potentially be monitoring all file accesses by any other process.

Drive integrity - if a drive is failing it can take a long time to ignore and bypass sectors on a disk or simply fail period and hang the scan.

Other ongoing disk I/O processes

System infection

MBAM database size.

 

The decision to stay with 1.75 because of shorter scan times is certainly up to you.

But support for the version will end eventually.

 

Thank you,

 

If 'Quick scan' was renamed as 'Threat scan' it is most odd that in 2.x 'Threat scan' clearly says "Our most capable comprehensive scan type".

You can't blame me for assuming that 'Threat scan' was the equivalent of 'Full scan'.

[daledoc1]

Hi, @bdg2:

 

Yes, the renaming did create some confusion.

 

As previously explained, there are some factors that tend to lengthen scan times and others shorten them.

In general, with all the additional capabilities enabled (archives scanning, rootkit scanning, etc) it is not unusual for scans in version 2 to take a bit longer than those in version 1.x.  That is the trade-off -- a more thorough scan may take longer.

 

It's not clear why scan times should matter all that much.  For most users, it makes no difference.

The scheduled scan be done at a time when the computer isn't being used for other activities, if it is an older system with less robust hardware.

As previously mentioned, all that's routinely needed under most circumstances is a daily Threat scan.

Routine "Full"/"Custom" scans are neither necessary, nor recommended.

It is a task better suited to your anti-virus, and it will always take a while, especially on "older" systems that you mentioned.

 

In any event, this topic was started by @giantbender, and the original inquiry related to the support duration for version 1.75, not scan times.

It has now drifted off-topic from the original subject.

 

If you would like help with your systems -- updating to version 2.1, configuring MBAM settings, cleanup, other help to improve scan times -- then we respectfully ask that you please start your own new, separate topic.

Someone will be happy to assist you.

 

Thank you,