Good glue to use to bond Epson Prem Photo Paper Glossy

[David H. Lipman]

I am looking for suggestions for a glue to bond the reverse side of two photos/prints, back-to-back, using Epson - Premium Photo Paper Glossy.
 
The bonded back-to-back photos/prints will then be hot laminated.
 
The glue must be able handle the heat of the hot laminator, not bleed into the paper, not affect the ink nor bleed into the edges.
 
TIA

[John L. Galt]

I've thought about and rethought about asking this question before I actually posted it here, but I think the benefits outweigh any potential problem in terms of insulting your intelligence, so here goes:

 

Why, exactly, do you have a need to adhere the pictures to each other?  Are they different sized, perchance (the only reason I could come up with for the need for adhesion)....

 

And, also out of curiosity, have you considered using scotch tape loops to adhere them to each other?

[David H. Lipman]

The content is mixed artwork, text and a head-shot photograph.

The material needs to be glued into an obverse and reverse, 2.188" x 3.375", monolithic ID badge that will be hot laminated.

 

EDIT:

 

I was thinking, and I'll have to try it, of an old natural glue that is made from egg white and flour.

[John L. Galt]

Not really sure if that would hold up to (eventual) discoloration after prolonged exposure to UV light, but other than that, it should probably work, at least to get it laminated without shifting of the individual pieces.  And the only reason I am thinking about the discoloration is because of the egg whites.

 

Since you're talking ID badge, I guess scanning the composite(s) into a single hi-res image and them printing that out on a single piece of the photo paper (and then joining the two pieces at a single ID sized front and back piece) would not work, eh?

[David H. Lipman]

For all intents and purposes, that is what I am doing. 

 

The glue would be sandwiched between the obverse and reverse so discoloration isn't a problem unless the glue bleeds into the paper and ink.  In that case the glue is contraindicated.  As for UV, that's covered by applying ¹Krylon 1305 (UV resistant Clear Coat Acrylic ) and it can handle hot lamination and is ink-safe.

 

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1.  I use it, or a non-UV version (Krylon 1303), for clear coating printed CD/DVD faces.

[John L. Galt]

Ahhh, then a not very strong concentrations of egg whites, that should be perfectly fine.  I was concerned of slow eventual bleeding into the paper itself, but actually, the heating process of lamination should dry out the natural glue rather well, too.

 

Nice.

[CWB]

why not use the krylon to "stick" the two pieces together ?

i believe this would be more stable than egg whites .

[David H. Lipman]

You know, I hadn't thought of that.  I had thought about a spray adhesive but the item is too small for that kind of spray.
 
I went to Michael's Art Supplies and what was suggested, works.
 
I obtained Elmer's Craft Bond with is an applicator that applies an 8mm wide strip of a thin but viscous material. The two halves join well with no slippage and with no cure time and a test through the Hot Laminator was successful.
 
Actually, the egg whites and flour is very stable.  It was used to repair china and porcelain before commercial products evolved and has been used by book binders for a very long time. There is something about the carbohydrates in the starch and the protein in the egg white that give it its strength.

[AdvancedSetup]

Photo paper is different though and pH balance of materials can affect the outcome in the long term. I have no idea if the egg white will do what you want and simply making a comment that photo paper is a bit different than the other materials you mentioned. On another note I've laminated something similar directly without taking any precautions as I was not concerned about long term affects and I had no issues with doing so. Your situation though is different as you are apparently concerned about the long term.

[CWB]

i thought of something else ... for future use ... "rubber cement" .

what you are looking for is something that will not "burn through" .

 

i have painted small parts on desktops , laptops and other items by spraying some krylon (my paint of choice) into the cap and using a small brush .

3M makes a tacky spray for use on photographs .

[David H. Lipman]

I wasn't too sure about the egg white/flour "paste" but it was also something that was a possibility.
 
The Elmer's CraftBond Permanent Tape Runner is pretty neat.  I like it.  I can see myself using it for future projects now that I know it exists and what I can use it for.

[KellyBundy1488]

I know i am a few years late but let me give you an amazing tip.  Walgreens sells a photo paper in 8 x 11 sheets. Its a Walgreen's Branded photopaper basic paper sized and it comes 25 sheets per package.  Its glossy but you can print the backside of the id on the back and it looks amazing.  Combine it with a matte butterfly pouch 10mm and you have perfection. Cheap and easy

[David H. Lipman]

I would NEVER buy Walgreen's Paper.  I only buy Epson Photo Paper for an Epson.  This is because the ink parameters ( viscosity, permeability/absorption, wetting, surface tension, etc ) are matched.  The same would go for HP Photo paper for a HP Printer and Canon Photo Paper for Canon printer  and likewise for other brands.  I have managed hundreds of printers from; dot matrix, dye sublimation, wax transfer, ink jet, bubble jet, band, thermal and laser and that covers many brands from robotic CD/DVD Printer/Writers to POS to 5' HP DesignJet with rolled Photo paper  to large scale HP Pen Plotters.  You get what you pay for.  If you want quality you have to pay for it and that means matching a brand of paper to the printer.  Note that this is not true for standard copy paper for simple printing.  However I prefer 24lb or 28lb Bright White ( 98 ) over 20lb standard copy paper ( 80-85 white level ).

I will note that it has been 4 yrs since this topic was "live" and Elmer's Craft Bond continues to be the best option even when I run the artwork through a Hot Laminator.

PS:  CWB was a party to this thread and he has not posted in years.  He was quite ill in late 2015 and with great sadness, it is believed, he ( Larry Roberts ) passed away.  

I write is it "believed" because I sent him a Snail Mail letter ( I knew his postal address ) and he never responded to it or personal email and I do not know for sure.

Edited August 24, 2018 by David H. Lipman
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