Could this be a way to stop the keyloggers?

[girlrocker]

I was wondering.  If one were to type a form with all the websites in col. 1, your email in col. 2, user id in col. 3, password in col. 4 and maybe an extra column for other information pertaining to that website.

 

And then you were to keep that form with all your sensitive information on a Disk, Flash Drive or any removable backup source and you are diligent about removing it each time you log off the PC.  It's just me and my hubby here and we have a locking safe I put the media in. I don't worry about it getting in the wrong hands here.

 

Now here's what I'm thinking.  When you sign into your website, couldn't you copy and paste your email and password from the chart to the boxes on the sign-in page?

 

Wouldn't that thwart the keyloggers?  You aren't typing the individual characters which is what the keyloggers are following aren't they?

 

If they were watching my typing, they would only get the copy and paste typing.

 

I use the right button on my mouse more than the left one.  I like to use the context menu.  So I'm not really doing much typing except here, right now LOL.

 

 

[girlrocker]

i didn't think about the clipboard.  I guess I need to clear its contents all the time.   I'm not really worried.  I have MBAM PRO AND MSE and all seems to be okay. Actually I'm more worried about the ransomware.  That's some pretty scary stuff.  I've been going through everything on the pc so I can backup all my important stuff elsewhere.  I've just recently been reading about all the different kinds of malware, etc. and kind of find it exciting (am I weird or what?). 

 

Well anyway, thanks for your reply.  I guess I'm doing okay but to be even safer I just need to clear the clipboard every time.

 

 

Thanks for that!

 

Julie

[Firefox]

Hello and

I read over your topic and noticed you are using MSE... that product is no longer as secure and as good as it once was, not even the developer (Microsoft) is endorsing it any longer. I would recommend you change out your antivirus for one that would do the job... HERE are some recommendations....

 

As for entering password and storing them, I would recommend a product known as KeePass

[John L. Galt]

Spot on for KeePass.  I've been using it for a few years now and I was going to suggest using it because it has been written to keep you pretty secure in terms of blocking keyloggers and the like. 

[girlrocker]

Well thank you Firefox and John.  I will give KeePass a try.  I can't believe my ears to hear about MSE.  Gringo_pr one of your volunteers who helped me about a month ago said he used MSE and MBAM together.  And I just read earlier today in Windows Secrets that Fred Langa (I guess a computer genius who puts out his own e-newsletter-I used to subscribe to it) also uses the pair of security programs.

 

Well I guess I need to download AVAST again and remove MSE.  And I'll totally give KeePass a try.

 

I do like my list that I painstakingly put together and typed into Excel.  I'm a copy and paste and a right-clicking, mouse-using fool!  LOL  But I'm overwhelmed by it because I have registered with thousands of sites since 1997 or 1998 and I didn't always write the personal stuff down or change it if it needed to be changed.  I have scraps of paper and lists and notebooks full of info.  It's like I'm a website/personal info collector like a person who collects old pocketknives or old jewelry. Pretty weird huh?

 

I totally trust this site as well as BleepingComputer,com.  So I will get on it.

 

Thanks

 

Julie

[Firefox]

Your welcome, the change on MSE has just been recent within the last few months... back in October there was a topic posted about just this....

Ouch: Microsoft no longer recommends their own Security Essentials anti-virus package

[girlrocker]

Well I definitely won't use AVG.  I used it for years.  But then they added Tune-Up Utilities for a trial period.  Well I had purchased Tune-Up 2012 about a year before.  When AVG's trial period of Tune-Up ended I found that I couldn't remove it.  Then I started reading forums on it.  Not a lot of nice things were said about it, So then I had a hard time uninstalling AVG.  I wanted to try AVAST cause I heard lots of good things about it.  I installed AVAST and then found out it wasn't really compatible with Chrome.  So I uninstalled AVAST and downloaded MSE.  Well I guess MSE is going and AVAST is coming back.  I guess it works with Chrome now. And everywhere I see it being reviewed or rated, it is the top-of-the-line free AV.

 

Now I typed in KeePass and came to KeePass,com.  You would think that was the site that owns KeePass.  They state that they aren't the owners of KeePass.  In their TOS they warn of all the evils that could happen and they won't be responsible.

 

So I googled keepass just now and really studied the site.  Very basic and simple.  Then I noticed that it is Keepass.com and not KeePass.com.  The "p" is not capitalized.  I don't know if it means anything but I went back to the search results and clicked on KeePass.info.  That site looks better to me.  I'm afraid to go to those download sites like CNET or SourceForge.  That's what got me in big trouble a couple of months ago.  Oh, and I just hovered my mouse over your KeePass blue link and it's also Keepass.info.  Well, I'll deal with all the downloading tomorrow.  I'm just super cautious about downloading anything anymore.  This sucks as I was a free download addict!

 

Thanks again.  I've been learning a lot of things these past couple of weeks by reading forums.  And of course in the end I have to make the judgement call as to whether I want the program or not.  Where ever there is a pro you'll most likely find a con.

 

Julie

[AdvancedSetup]

This is the official link

 

http://keepass.info/

 

There are portable versions that do not require install and they work great so no junk installed.

[CWB]

"This sucks as I was a free download addict!"

 

good to hear that you are moving along on the learning curve .

yep ... many people fall for the second oldest game in the book : "free stuff" .

just keep thinking "caveat emptor" and it will help separate the wheat from the chaff .

 

the stuff at source forge is pretty much ok ... but one still has to be careful .

i believe that a download from there that i tried (about three months back) had a damnable toolbar installer as a "ride along" .

(ooooh ... don't even get me started about toolbars !)

 

a good policy is : when in doubt , stop and ask/research .

[John L. Galt]

Yeah, the developers at SourceForge have to enable using the SourceForge-enabled toolbar in order for you to get downloads that have that toolbar in them.  Most stuff I get from SF does not have the toolbar-assisted downloader, so it seems only a few developers have actually enabled them.

 

KeePass has a very large variety of supported Operating systems, including (but not limited to) most mobile devices, most *nix, Windows, Mac, a pure JAVA version (that is pretty much universal in terms of desktop OSs), and even the mobiles devices have started supporting write features for Professional-level databases.  By that, I mean that there are 2 different versions of KeePass, 1.x and 2.x. For a side by side comparison, see http://keepass.info/compare.html and for an explanation as to why there are 2 different versions, see http://keepass.info/devstatus.html

 

I personally use the 2.xx tree, and use it on my Droid BIONIC, and my ASUS Transformer Infinity, and keep a copy of it with me on my thumbdrive via PortableApps.com.  I use a single database that is synced to my Google Drive from all of my devices, so it really and truly is portable.

 

HTH