New version install

[ksiemb]

Installing a new version of the software, overwrites the current version of the signature database with an older version, then gives a message, the DB is outdated, and must update to the current DB that was there to begin with. Makes no sense.

[noknojon]

Not being involved with writing the program, I can only offer my observations -

When you install a new version of the program, it was written at a certain date we will call xx / xx /20xx

This is the "data base" that you install as the latest version of the program.

But in the mean while, since the basic program data base was written, there has already been several normal daily definition updates to the program.

These are not included in the Basic Program Data Base that was written on xx / xx /20xx

For this reason, the program has a section when you install the data base, that you tick to allow you to update to the Current data base of xx / xx /20xx + daily updates

If you installed the program yesterday, the Definitions have already been updated ? several times -

Kind of like - Buy a new computer today and a newer model is already on the shelves, but you can install todays software -

Marcin will not let me play too much around the program , however you will find that this is the same with most Anti Malware and Antivirus programs on the market today. If not you will never have the latest data bases and updates -

Remember that you are always told to check for updates prior to scanning -

A very basic view behind the workings of these programs - From an idiot / carpenter that likes to play -

Now the EXPERTS can pick my theory to bits if they wish, but it is basically correct -

[daledoc1]

Hi, noknojon:

I could be wrong, but I think ksiemb is describing the long-standing suggestion that -- when there is a PROGRAM update available -- that MBAM might prompt the user for the PROGRAM update first, BEFORE updating the database (so that one would not have to update the database again after installing a program update)??

The suggestion makes sense, but I wouldn't know if it's feasible from a programming standpoint.

I'm pretty sure I've seen this topic/suggestion come up several times before, but I couldn't locate a specific thread.

I'm sure our trusty MBAM staff will have more official feedback,

daledoc1

[shadowwar]

Daledoc1,

This was rectified in 1.62 and on. What you mentioned is going to happen with updates from this version on.

We have to lnclude a database with the program do to if you didn't have internet you would have none to work with whatsover.

Its also very intensive to compile and test versions for each release.

With updates about 7 times a day or more make it more difficult to do so.

Also if malware had attacked mbam including a database overwrite will help get it going.

[daledoc1]

Thanks, shadowwar!

(I wasn't asking the OP's question, since I understand how things work in terms of packaging a database with the program when it ships. Nor is it a big deal (at least for me) to re-update the definitions database after a program update, given that program updates only happen a few times a year and I'm on a broadband connection. I thought I was just re-phrasing the OP's question to clarify. Sorry if I misspoke or if I created any confusion. )

[shadowwar]

not a problem at all. guess i should of broke my post up a bit.

[noknojon]

Hi, noknojon:

The suggestion makes sense, but I wouldn't know if it's feasible from a programming standpoint.

I'm pretty sure I've seen this topic/suggestion come up several times before, but I couldn't locate a specific thread.

daledoc1

Hi daledoc1 -

I thought my basics would have been trashed a lot more than it has been, since some is a "bit wrong" technically

This is not asking Ron, or others, to hit me with a big stick, just giving an opinion, as usual -

However, you may remember back to the early updates (prior to 1.60) that took a long time with both the full data base + definitions together each time.

Many of us were still on dial-up in those days, and you must recall the many complaints back then

Chameleon has taken some load off hijacking MBAM's base, but I set the reply on new version Vs DB is outdated

I have needed to use the new Chameleon a few times when I could not get MBAM loaded or updated and I love it

Currently working on one at another forum that needed this, and it worked a treat

Thanks for adding to this -

[ksiemb]

Hi, noknojon:

I could be wrong, but I think ksiemb is describing the long-standing suggestion that -- when there is a PROGRAM update available -- that MBAM might prompt the user for the PROGRAM update first, BEFORE updating the database (so that one would not have to update the database again after installing a program update)??

The suggestion makes sense, but I wouldn't know if it's feasible from a programming standpoint.

I'm pretty sure I've seen this topic/suggestion come up several times before, but I couldn't locate a specific thread.

I'm sure our trusty MBAM staff will have more official feedback,

daledoc1

Yep, exactly !