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I have previously worked on getting this resolved, and thought that it had been, thanks to the help of TwinHeadedEagle over on MWT. He definitely helped speed up the machine and its boot up, and removed all of the overt issue with these two obnoxious malwares. He has since stopped responding over there and the thread is labelled solved, and since I use MWB VS most of the time, I figured I should come here. For context and previous efforts, the MWT thread is here: http://malwaretips.com/threads/mal-adware-returns-after-reboot-and-trying-all-removal-steps.48805/ At this point, the only VS software that finds anything is SpyHunter 4, but I figured since the other thread has gone dormant and since I use MWB VS most of the time, I should move over to here. This machine isnt going places it shouldnt or dling all sorts of things. Its pretty vanilla in terms of responsibility. Just want to get these #@$)(ing malwares out so they aren't sending my information all over the place. I really dont want to have to reformat, and I dont even know whether that would solve it. Any help is appreciated. Thanks