Well thanks for reply bro. I just tried avira, it was going ok, until all of a sudden out of the blue, it started popping up alerts saying itself was a trojan, avcentre its own process, and firefox was a trojan, and then everything else it just kept alerting to a trojan, so I uninstalled it after 2 hours stolen from my life. It went mental said everything was a trojan, and it was very annoying, way buggy.. I have had good experience with both avast and avg, however their recent upgrades of software have created some problems for older non SSE2 processors with slower ram. Which millions of people still use and I only started on this mission when I was fixing a pc for someone, who has a celeron 2.5ghz 333 sdram, and it seems they would need to upgrade their hardware, but they don't WANT to. They are not extreme gaming enthusiasts, they just want to browse the web perhaps watch some youtube and want protection. And it seems for the older non SSE2 processors, the developers are excluding them. Just like game developers exclude the older instruction sets. Its getting annoying because those old pc's still work fine.