wildman424, Please don't take offense; I was not ignoring you; it's just that it took me a long time to get to following your instructions, during which I communicated more here, & so got the post from Firefox. This morning, I: undid the sharing that I was using on my uninfected computer (to get around my not being able to connect to the internet and not having a (normal(*)) flash drive) (bec I didn't want to infect that computer) (I didn't!) tried to use my (*: secure flash drive) on my infected machine - but couldn't, bec. it has to run Java to let me log in to it) whined went to your recovery section, &, since I didn't know which I was infected with, just looked at the first one get the Aha! that I should try installing MBAM in Safe Mode did ran it it found 3 removed them rebooted : fixed! THANK YOU ALL! not to learn more about how to protect myself better...