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hnktong

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  1. Thank you very much, @treed. I did the restart after my last post and Chargeberry is disabled on its way to the Trash. I'm glad to have MWB and will be more critical of App Store offerings in the future.
  2. Well, there goes some cred, but it also illustrates the point I was making about why users might not post to forums. I'm experienced in using forums of many kinds back to dial-up BBSs, yet I've managed to double post when I thought I was editing my first one, and I haven't yet figured out how to delete the first one (if possible). I can imagine my mother-in-law who just wants to know why her puzzle program was quarantined looking at the forums and saying, "Well, I guess I'll find another program" rather than post. And that's probably the best result for her security-wise, but she'd be an uncatalogued user who wanted information.
  3. I've been a MWB for Windows user for years. When I discovered the Mac version of MWB was available, I didn't hesitate to download and install it since I've been so happy with MWB for Windows. So, thank you very much for bringing MWB to the Mac! And good news that the information available will at least be approaching that available in the Windows version (@alvarnell, I see that you're Mac Guru, and you probably know this, but the Windows version provides much more information). Even relatively novice users I know on Mac and Windows like to know why something's happening, especially if a program they obtained from a trusted source gets quarantined. I'd echo @Kamchatka7's assertion that most users (of either Mac/Win bent) simply don't post to forums like this, adding that it's probably because they don't have time or value the information enough to make the time to post, not to mention learning how to sign up/use the forum and potential public shaming likely added to the mix. But as to wanting information: While I trust MWB a good deal, antimalware engines make mistakes or at least mischaracterizations, especially with things they designate as PUP, so more information is often needed to decide whether that quarantined PUP that I've been using is harmless or is/has morphed into a real threat. That information is still available in MWB for Windows, but not in MWB for Mac, and it should be, so thank you @treed for letting us know that its addition is planned. I hope that the "Restore" feature of the Windows version will also be coming to the Mac version. Also, thank you @alvarnell and @treedfor the reminders in this related thread that we shouldn't inherently trust things from the App/Mac Store. Example: MWB popped a notification of quarantine and that a restart was required; clicking the notification didn't open MWB, so I opened MWB from the menu bar to find out what was quarantined and why. Opening the quarantine folder to learn the identity of the offender was a little weird, but easy enough. The offender (ChargeBerry) is a program I downloaded from the App Store and have been using for months, so I wanted to know why it was quarantined. Going to Reports, I was dismayed at the dearth of information and the lack of an "Undo Quarantine" or "Restore" option for false positives or PUP that I actually do want. Because MWB quarantined the program, I'm somewhat hesitant to restore it without more information about why it was quarantined, but want to because it's been a nice tool. So it's off to web search land to try to determine why the program was flagged as malware (or PUP - don't know). In the mean time, I'll stick with MWB's assessment and delete the program. So, all of that complaining said, I still value and appreciate having the Mac version at all and look forward to its continued development. Regards, Hnk P.S. For reference for those not familiar with the Windows version, here are the Mac Reports tab vs. the Windows Reports tab: Mac: Windows (its Win10 Home - I use WindowBlinds with a Mac-like skin):
  4. I've been a MWB for Windows user for years. When I discovered the Mac version of MWB was available, I didn't hesitate to download and install it since I've been so happy with MWB for Windows. So, thank you very much for bringing MWB to the Mac! And good news that the information available will at least be approaching that available in the Windows version (@alvarnell, the Windows version provides much more information). Even relatively novice users I know on Mac and Windows like to know why something's happening, especially if a program they obtained from a trusted source gets quarantined. I'd echo @Kamchatka7's assertion that most users (of either Mac/Win bent) simply don't post to forums like this, adding that it's probably because they don't have time or value the information enough to make the time to post, not to mention learning how to sign up/use the forum and potential public shaming likely added to the mix. But as to wanting information: While I trust MWB a good deal, antimalware engines make mistakes or at least mischaracterizations, especially with things they designate as PUP, so more information is often needed to decide whether that quarantined PUP that I've been using is harmless or is/has morphed into a real threat. That information is still available in MWB for Windows, but not in MWB for Mac, and it should be, so thank you @treed for letting us know that its addition is planned. I hope that the "Restore" feature of the Windows version will also be coming to the Mac version. Example: MWB popped a notification of quarantine and that a restart was required; clicking the notification didn't open MWB, so I opened MWB from the menu bar to find out what was quarantined and why. Opening the quarantine folder to learn the identity of the offender was a little weird, but easy enough. The offender (ChargeBerry) is a program I downloaded from the App Store and have been using for months, so I wanted to know why it was quarantined. Going to Reports, I was dismayed at the dearth of information and the lack of an "Undo Quarantine" or "Restore" option for false positives or PUP that I actually do want. Because MWB quarantined the program, I'm somewhat hesitant to restore it without more information about why it was quarantined, but want to because it's been a nice tool. So it's off to web search land to try to determine why the program was flagged as malware (or PUP - don't know). So, all of that complaining said, I still value and appreciate having the Mac version at all and look forward to its continued development. Regards, Hnk P.S. For reference for those not familiar with the Windows version, here are the Mac Reports tab vs. the Windows Reports tab: Mac: Windows (its Win10 Home - I use WindowBlinds with a Mac-like skin):
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