Davidtoo

The answer really comes down to what you want to protect imho. My daughters use only Malwarebytes on their macs...and that likely is good enough. But I would never rely solely on malwarebytes on my windows computer...why? because I use my computer for work and not only would downtime cost me money, but would make available confidential information for my clients. I can't and won't take that chance..so I use malwarebytes for secondary protection and rely on what I believe is the best security out there...kaspersky, with 30 levels of protection..far better than windows defender as far as I am concerned. Kaspersky also finds and eliminates most email malicious links which malwarebytes does not check. I.e., the issue is what is your risk if your security is breached. If it is simply a matter of having to reinstall your operating system, may not be that much of a big deal. If it is a matter of downtime and loss of confidential info...much bigger deal. I learned my lesson years ago when I relied only on Symantec endpoint, and then did not update the virus engine as the years went by, only updating the signature database.......penny wise pound foolish...that cost me a lot. Never again.

Exile, I will say one thing with the caveat that I know Kaspersky is a much larger company with far many more "experts" on its programming staff...but having been using it for years now....I never recall a time when an update caused a problem with my computer. Once a year I upload the new program, always flawlessly...other than that it updates itself behind the scenes. Just saying. Last January the issue with Malwarebytes is old news now, but caused quite a problem at the time, and then there was a small blip what, a month ago or so on some Win 7 computers? There is nothing that hurts Malwarebytes reputation more than defective updates....seems to me Malwarebytes, even if it means a slower updating schedule, should do more testing on various platforms before actually releasing anything...........I still use Malwarebytes as secondary protection and put it on my daughters' macs as primary protection, so I am happy with the program...but I see where the OP is coming from.

Thanks folks...I do have advanced disinfection technology enabled in Kaspersky as well as rootkit scan and safe money. I am unwilling to turn any of these off...I use Safe Money all of the time, and not sure what advanced disinfection technology does, not a clear description on the web, but if it works on memory processes and prevents malware from taking hold, it is obviously important. Interestingly, I went to this site to test malwarebytes web protection, ip block notification, http://iptest.malwarebytes.org and that seems to work on my computer too...see below... So bottom line, I will keep using Kaspersky as my primary defense with all protections enabled and will keep using malwarebytes as secondary protection. Not sure what I am losing due to the Kaspersky blocks, but with its different layers, it must be doing something. It is a lifetime license I use, so its not costing me anything at this point. Thanks for your advice.

Really, If every computer user on the planet knows this, why don't the experts at malwarebytes know this? Thank you exile, but I have to assume that HIPS is part of Kaspersky's "system watcher" and sure it can be turned off...but best as I can tell there is no way to exclude anything...anyway, that is the part of the program that protects malicious activity, like Ransomware, from infecting your computer ..stops it cold and rolls back the damages...so I guess I will continue using both and not worry about whatever Kaspersky is blocking. I know that Malwarebytes still works because it has prevented exploits in the past and has blocked me going to malicious websites...so I may not get full functionality out of it...but at least I get some...

best I can tell...everything in malwarebytes is trusted by kaspersky and its firewall...and yet it still blocks the service.

Here are my kaspersky firewall rules regarding malwarebytes...if you or anyone can make a suggestion as to what I should add or delete or edit.....to get the memory process working......

The only detail I can come up with using Kaspersky is the attached. I have no idea if or how to figure out what role the firewall is playing....I suspect that Kaspersky will block memory processes no matter what is excluded due to the danger they pose..but I am speculating there.....

No matter what I have done exclusion wise, Kaspersky always blocks malwarebyte services on my win7 pro computer...attached are my exclusions and kaspersky report...if anybody has any suggestions... thanks. Otherwise, this has been going on forever, and I assume Kaspersky will continue blocking memory processes and Malwarebytes will still do what it is supposed to do in the background.

By the way, I do use Malwarebytes business anti exploit on the server and malwarebytes premium on the desktops as secondary protection. I feel comfortable that between the two programs...we will have no problems regardless of what the staff opens in email or not.

Thanks...interesting article and I will go with just Malwarebytes on the macs...but not on my windows computers.....The article says Windows defender is good enough supplanted with Malwarebytes...and that "But the best protection is layers and good habits:.......They can talk about good habits all they want...but I have an office with several staff members who will open up malicious but innocent looking email items no matter how much training they have. Before Kaspersky (sans malwarebytes), I used Symantec and before Symantec free AV programs...and managed to get infected no matter what program I was using. In one case, my secretary, even with Symantec End Point, managed to infect her computer so badly, it was being used as some sort of botnet to store hundreds of viruses....the infection made it over to our server and trashed the server too...never made it to my computer from the server though because Kaspersky cut off the network before any harm could be done. that was it...all computers in the office used Kaspersky Internet Security (or Kaspersky small office...same thing...as Kaspersky Total Security). Even with Kaspersky, my staff has opened up packed files and dropbox phishing mail that was not detected initially, but was stopped in its tracks by Kaspersky and then the damage rolled back. So this is the way I see it....the downtime from an infection can cost thousands of dollars...the investment in a top quality program like Kaspersky backed up by malwarebytes is a relatively minimal cost and other than the malwarebytes fiasco last January...my computers having been running smoothly since I adapted Kaspersky paid version a few years back....I do not trust Windows Defender to be as good as Kaspersky....the only other program I might consider for my windows computers would be Bitdefender...but since nothing has penetrated our computers since adapting Kaspersky backed up by malwarebytes...for windows that is what I am sticking with. I am not taking the chance of being hit with Ransomware etc...which I have no doubt Kaspersky has prevented several times in the last few years.

I have been using windows forever...and I use Malwarebytes premium on top of Kaspersky. Kaspersky provides firewall, mail scans, etc. protection and lets nothing through...and Malwarebytes I consider secondary protection just in case something gets by Kaspersky. And it has come in handly blocking rogue websites and exploits before detected by Kaspersky. My daughters use Mac and have done so without any sort of malware protection. Recently I installed malwarebytes premium on their computers and it did, on a scan, detect four malware threats and quarantined them on my daughter's college computer, which she has been using for three years now. Not sure what the malware was, one of the threats had gibberish letters.. Which brings up the question.....is Malwarebytes for mac enough...I know mac has its own security superior to that of windows...and is not targeted like windows is, but lately I have been reading that mac is becoming more of a target. Also reading that malwarebytes for mac is lacking since it does not have a firewall and does not prevent phishing. I don't know if the issue about phishing is accurate, but I do know kaspersky on my windows computers has regularly prevented phishing...which lately seems to be very sophisticated...fake dropbox emails, fake shareone emails etc...and Kaspersky blocks these sites or prevents malicious downloads. I have some extra kaspersky licenses lying around, but don't want to activate them yet and waste them on the Mac if not necessary. Opinions? Thanks.

Just in case this helps...something I noticed about my computer.... I have a Win 7 64 Pro myself...no freezes at all. I just looked at my Kaspersky Report which I do once a week or so, and Kaspersky routinely blocks Malwarebytes from using memory processes...even though I have excluded Malwarebytes in Kaspersky and exlcuded kaspersky in Malwarebytes settings. Perhaps therefore the memory processes which are not allowed to operate on my computer have something to do with this Freezing. Just speculating here....but could be I suppose.

FWIW, I use Windows 7 Pro on my computer. I did not use my computer the last ten days of December, being on vacation, but upon returning in early January, I did not and have not noticed any Freezing problems, and I use my computer a lot. I did however notice some other issues...programs not working properly, etc, not able to access the web using I.E., error notices, etc. I used the software at Tweak.com to reset everything....and so far the computer seems to be working fine. I also ran an SFC /scannow scan and a have some corrupt and non-repairable files, and per Tweak.com, I also have a number of corrupt package files....still as long as the Computer works, I will avoid reinstalling Pro. I have no idea whether malwarebytes had anything to do with this...it keeps on working along with Kaspersky in the background.

Digmorcrusher....it depends which site you download it from. Some of the sites load it up with malware...I think the cleanest sites is the majorgeeks site. Ghost....my malwarebytes blocked the backdoors.....so that no additional software could be downloaded to the computer....what Kaspersky did was to stop the malware in its tracks while it was starting to make changes to my registry entries, etc., eliminated the malware and rolled back all of the changes....so they worked in Unison. Of course if I didn't have malwarebytes, perhaps kaspersky would have blocked the backdoors itself. But I am not willing to experiment and find out :-)

Just for what it is worth, these imgburn download websites are all over the place..and i noticed the downloads are sometimes larger..sometimes smaller, depending on the website offering the download...the larger ones containing more malware. I have read the cleanest down load is on majorgeeks...but there is some sort of malware even in its download. I leave it to you guys to decide if the many sites with this program should be flagged or not.....but its pretty bad when you can download a packed program that malwarebytes and antiviruses do not detect until you start installing and unpacking....and then find yourself possibly infested with all sorts of malware. I didn't even know malware in packed files was impervious to detection until I read about it after my near death experience :-)