so... as my original post stated, when I asked MBAM to remove it, that is when the program became unresponsive and had to be killed with task manager, three times I let it sit after selecting remove for more than 15 minutes. so i did tell it to remove it, that was the context of my original post, after asking for its removal, the program would crash and not remove it. it would find it, no problem, but it would become unresponsive when asked to remove it. I even went to the extent of uninstalling MBAM , restarting my computer, re-downloading the program, and, re-installing it with the same results.I have since found another way to remove it, Thanks for the responses, have a happy new year...