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  1. Thanks warwagon. All good info and points.
  2. exile360 ! When you post, it is as your last words, it..... "is always a plus ."
  3. Thanks, exile360 for being graphic about the novice in the registry issue. And as for CCleaner cleaning, I think I am permanently "off" for using it. I dunno how vulnerable I would be for its unfortunate removing of breaking something vital, but how big is the reward for using vs the risk? My brother works IT for state of Calif, and he asked me in one of those rare conversations, "Why use it ?" Your first time description about the utility was already good, but thank you for expanding on it. Manual,too, huh ? I can see me doing that ! But for others who read your post, it's possibly kool to know that. I'll go with your handy
  4. Once again, thank you exile360. More goodies to add to my inventory. Yikes, your link is exactly 6 years and 5 days old.....bordering on ancient ! he he. I'm sure all good though. When I saw XP and WIN 7, I had to check date of post ! Tweaking dot com. Nice little arranger - tidy up application. Someone earlier on this thread -- may have been you--said to be careful about using the Registry Cleaner, but the basic Cleaner in CCleaner is ok. Are you of an opinion that for many of us computer challenged with minimal knowledge it is best just not to use the Registry Cleaner ?
  5. Today, after two days of my MB 3.06.1469 being “frozen,” I was gonna go through the perfunctory, pre-report gathering logs and reports in preparation for website posting and requesting examination and repair. The mb3 had frozen on me at night after it worked all day. The open utility with dashboard staring at me refused to respond to anything I clicked on, and would not allow me to go elsewhere like SCAN or REPORTS. I did a full scan with Windows Defender which came up with negative results. I needed to hurry that night to work more hours to finish what I was involved with, and I ignored the problem. I eventually did my own crash that night rather than re-boot the computer. Let's see if the recalcitrant program will stand up and salute after boot up in the morning. It did not. In fact, all the icons were where they were supposed to be, and none of them responded when clicking on them. On my Windows 8.1, I could pin to the task bar and unpin which was a different function all together, but the program would not open. I waited two days before addressing the stoppage. I got my log out of Program Data.... and was about to perform the final duties of getting FRST and mb-check logs. But then, even though I never saw it as being required at any of the staff-initiated forums dedicated to fixing, the last time I went through this protocol, I was advised by support to do them over again as Administrator on my computer. So this time, I scratched what logs I had with intentions of doing them over again as Administrator along with gathering the remaining log reports. Rather than convert my user account to Administrator authority, I logged on to my already-made Administrator account. There I saw on the desktop the blue icon mb3 brother. Before getting started with tasks ahead of me, I clicked on it, and it worked fine! I manually updated it. I moved around to other page locations. Everything worked fine. I returned to the user account where I had left the stalled mb3, but now everything worked fine. I just experienced a version of the “Lockheed fix.” Good job, guys, building this feature into the program ! Why aren't you more public about it ? (attchmt: The USAF's C-141 Starlifter built by Lockheed was its first jet transport and arguably one of the most in-flight, reliable aircraft in USAF history. In spite of it carrying two flight engineers on its crew, they sometimes could not “fix” an in-flight problem. Before it landed, the aircraft sometimes had fixed itself. All the more strange was sometimes the large significance of the problem that made these self-fixes a head scratcher later. It was known as the Lockheed fix.)
  6. Digmorcrusher, a note: (questions) at the end of this post (that others are invited to reply, also). .Well “obsessive “ is why I started this topic. I knew I was spending a lot of time cleaning and being very defensive—for years ! -- but I had no point of reference to know what “normal” should be. I am grateful to everyone who has kindly posted on what probably was considered a simpleton subject. But it has allowed me to learn that by comparison, I have indeed been way over-doing it with scans and registry cleaning. I got my first computer Nov 1997. I had no one teach/mentor me from the start up, made mistakes on the learning curve, got infected more than I should have. Getting infected in those early days was like a beginner swimmer thrown into the deep end and anxiously trying to find the side of the pool. The legacy to that was to use whatever tools I had to become more defensive—and use them often ! Now that I know better, I probably can't remove all the excess completely ! At the end of February a new, post-malwarebytes removal tool that cleans its remnants was introduced. I would request the mwb cadre make one for users' removal of obsessiveness. But I have already started rehabilitation since reading all these good posts, and my reform is underway. You, digmorcrusher are the most defensive compared to others who have posted and closer to my reformed ways but still evolving to reduce down to your frequencies. QUESTION (anyone else can chime in): I don't recall anyone stating daily scans are hurtful or counter-productive, but that this is unnecessary with today's excellent protection available. I find it easy to push a button once per day and let the scan begin while I go on to do other things. (It's part of my reform; I used to do two scans per day with AV and one or two with malwarebytes.) Now I do one scan each per day with AV and mwb. You do one AV per week (closer to other posters who even do less frequently). You do registry scan/clean daily which is what some say makes a user more vulnerable to problems from potential, unfortunate removals. (You however do a manual look to assure that does not occur before deleting.) My question is why do you do daily registry scans ? Question ( bundled) (also anyone else can respond): Why your selection of those specific registry scanners, RegScanner and SystemLook ? The issuers of registry scanners appear to be over-selling them, maybe because they are such a commodity these days with so many competitors. Does a user choose one based on some specific feature that is important to a user ? What is an informed user looking for ? What are the most important features should a user be looking for from a registry scanner/cleaner, or is it a matter of individual preference ? What reviewers can you trust that are not being paid by to write what they do ? I have been using CCleaner for many years that I think was a referral. Question (anyone can respond): What is one supposed to be looking for after the completion of a scan ? That's a lot. Thank you in advance !
  7. Same here. But I will be pacing myself down to doing less. If I can reduce the potential alligators in the water--the ones that may bite you in spite of you being innocent--why not ?
  8. exile360........ Another minimalist ! Your usage as relates to me is AV scanning due to suspect checks and Malwarebytes as a utility for system check--novel--along with its purpose for defense at the front gates. CCleaner weekly you do for clean up and its registry cleaner with discrete removal/non-removal inspection of file....and conservative at that. This is consistent with other posts. I'm getting it ! I appreciate you addressing hard drive wear and tear and disc maintenance. Importantly, as it applies to my use, the former I have finally come to understand is not really an issue, and the latter is a job for dedicated utilities. As I think expressed in my original post, I felt much of what comes as replies would reflect personal style. But there are some common themes through the posts and to my mind, de-bunking some myths. Thank you exile 360 for that elegant post—comprehensive--and rounding things out !
  9. ahhh......Porthos...TY for the clarification. Good stuff. This goes into my Computer Hygienics folder. All of this adds to ideas for good practices. I mean everyone has their personal style, but when in some corners of one's computer life it is baron, it is great to have these contributions for adoption consideration. At the very least it points to what is known to work. Much thanks, Porthos
  10. Pondus and Porthos and digmorcrusher....thank you. What I take from you and expect if I got a hundred replies is that there is a spectrum of how users address their scanning frequency and style of using: personal preferences. Porthos.... I find it interesting you never used “optimizing” software (your reaction, I suppose, to my citing use of CCleaner). That is probably what I was referring to that I read some are concerned with inadvertent deletion of files that can be or may be in the future necessary for the computer. Your point is well taken about inexpensive hard drives. Some of us would not wish to fiddle with the replacing activity...he he. I tried for the first time ever using on line storage in anticipation of upgrading OS 8.1 to 10. I tried Sky Drive on a probationary basis, and came away disappointed and didn't keep it. It did not have the most basic of my expectations and there was little to meet the user with explanations/descriptions of use of the site. I was in a rush and maybe I overlooked something. If so, it should have been user friendly and more intuitive. It made me think if all sky storage is like this. I just used my ol' plug-in external drive. Again thank you for your contribution. Getting responses from you folks is a lot of bang for the buck in the context of experience and knowledge. pondus.....Thanks for the link about simultaneous AV use and noting MB 3 is not AV.. .. Says it all. I'm not sure to what extent conflict can occur between Defender and MB 3. And if the computer is robust enough, using its resources should not be an issue. I just make sure I don't order a simultaneous, manual scan. Good of you to point out the CCleaner feature. I must be a few versions behind. I'm gonna get on it. Your rate of scanning is classic, one end of the spectrum. But with yours and Porthos replies, I am clearly over doing the number of scans. And now I can appreciate why considering what I found at some web sites. Thank you again. I respect your time on this site and your current efforts and the benefit it has for me. digmorcrusher: At the same very end of the spectrum as pondus...maybe more so ! This is what the link I posted stated: With effective protection in front, why do you need to scan for so frequently for intruders in every nick and cranny of the house ? Thank you digmorcrusher. It is this piling on of respondents polarized in the same direction that brings more credibility and faith for me in the convictions of already credible persons.
  11. Which explains Firefox's following... pondus, do you mean the ONLY time you run CCleaner is when a new version comes out ? You run it then, and not again, until the next version arrives ? That there is nothing good coming out of running the cleaner except on that occasion ? The computer doesn't have to stumble over unused files ?
  12. I have done a search on this web site for any solid information or even opinions on when scanning becomes excessive to the point of becoming harmful. I'm not too techy, but I would think after 20 years of trying to maintain good health to my computers I would have run into the subject at least once if there is a "too much" issue in scanning a computer. The question I have here is if there is a point in which frequency of scanning is too much ? Below is some preliminary findings today on the subject, but I think of the big ratio of more sophisticated posters and responses from experts here at this site as an advantage over general blogs out there elsewhere. The "too much scanning" was actually brought up tangential to what a different issue was for a poster to a forum on this web site I discovered a few weeks ago. I believe he was referring to an expert or insider of Malwarebytes that scanning too much can be erosive to a computer. Again this was just an aside remark to the principal subject at hand for the poster. But particularly because the poster was arguably referring to an expert that scanning can become harmful or at least counterproductive has lingered on in my mind since then. Why ? Because I would be a primary offender due to my ignorance about "excessive scanning." My Windows Defender does occasional, quick scans maybe once every day or other day automatically, but I frequently will do an additional manual quick scan almost everyday. Twice a month I will do an extensive scan with Defender. All this is in addition to Malwarebytes' scheduled, daily scan and generally an additional manual scan daily with Malwarebytes. I am very cautious where I go on the web and what may come floating in to the Inbox of my email. But frankly, the buttons are there, the scans are done quickly, and none of this is bothersome to me. I did a web search this morning .... "Is frequent scanning hard on a computer ?" The early batch of search findings were 9 to 12 years old with blogs being predominately negative about frequent scans. Also included in replies was the "washing utilities" like Ccleaner that is being accused of having a potential for removing files that are OR will be needed for proper computer functioning, e.g. removal of files from "temporary folder." I use Ccleaner at end of day every day. The same accusation for the same reason applies to Ccleaner's registry cleaner which I use at end of day, too. I was shocked. I thought I was eliminating clutter. But apparently this frequent cleaning syndrome is a hold over from the 1980's and early 1990's when hard drive space was much more limited. Back to scanning: A makes-sense article from 4 years ago, April 2013, on the "howtogeek" site stated today's AV is so good with constant scanning always occurring in the background, that the theme is catching malware as it is trying to come through the door. The manual scans have limited but necessary needs like when it is suspected that an infection does exist and the need to find and purge it. I suppose I am guilty--inadvertently--of being an obsessive AV scanner to a fault, but I would like to hear from others if, indeed, this is damaging or counterproductive ? That same link referred to the obstruction of two AV's working simultaneously. I would never do manual scans simultaneously. But the link stated that because AV's are always working (scanning, I think it means) in the background, the potential is there for conflict. In the MB3 forum, this was addressed on one thread recently. The in-house expert stated that using MB3 makes it unnecessary to also be using Windows Defender, but as long as they are de-conflicted in the Action Center of the Control Panel, go ahead and use both if that is a user's preference. Being as obsessive-compulsive, I use both. From all I have found with this quick research today, maybe it is net best to use only one ? (And then there is this: Is MB 3 a true AV ?) Is using two AV's "not good," and is only for us feel-better types ? Is there a point it becomes cumulatively excessive to be AV scanning too much ? ....damaging ? .....counterproductive ? Peripherally, is there a point it becomes too frequent to be using the Ccleaners and registry cleaners hold too much potential for harm ? Even if the replies suggest "shades of gray," I think I will understand.
  13. Aura...TY for that reply. Using Control Panel and a follow up clean up agent sounds good. I can avoid the question put to me by RevoUninstaller about "other locations" to delete from that I don't feel all the time completely qualified to know how to respond to it. Telos...Indeed I use the procedure you describe; in other words continue to log the complete set up to include adjustments. Thank you for the wisdom of exporting the Revo log. I take it that it makes sense to preserve the log for future examination (post-uninstall) by Revo) when doing a diagnostic of some future problem elsewhere on the computer. I think that is what you mean. AND....YES, Revo does make that warning not to be diddling around elsewhere while it is doing the tracing. I have found at times I needed to put my hands in restraints to comply. That must be why, too, Revo starts with establishing a restore point. Having a saved log after uninstall allows for a look under the hood before using the meat cleaver approach of going back in time, perhaps way back in time after discovering a problem. But I do, too, really thank you for the advice on.. " Regarding the window with "potentially uninstalled parts..." as I have never personally been able to completely resolve the trade off between the danger of deleting something I should not versus the drive to "clean it all." Your "stick with the traced logs" unless there is clear path of the object that was targeted for completing does sound like wisdom far beyond my shallow education on the subject.
  14. This post doesn't move the ball along for those with issues. It is just a statement of wonderment how these issues occur, particularly when occurring to a new PC ! This is all the more curious as so many are afflicted with the same issues, and many of them have been addressed successfully with the same/similar prescriptions while others have not ! (I have read enough posts that makes me think the OS can affect the number of issues experienced.) On this forum are posts related to MB3 issues, including mine a few weeks ago. But when I evolved to my issues (not all of them had been posted) were suddenly gone. By choice, I stopped "evolving" with component package version 1.0.50. If it ain't broken, don't fix it. Lenovo 2 1/2 years old Windows 8.1 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4510U CPU @ 2.00GHz 2.60 Ghz 64-bit Operating System, x64 based processor
  15. With the existence of Malwarebytes cleaner, maybe this post will be an academic question. Is it, when used in conjunction with Control Panel "programs uninstall," THE best cleaning approach ? Is there confidence in other utilities for cleaning uninstall ? Or is this subject just splitting hairs ? Reference is always made--I think appropriately--to go to the Control Panel to uninstall. But I have always used RevoUninstaller premium in its Trace mode when installing for exactly the purpose I am addressing..... to have a "state of the art" uninstall. After the download of a program like MB3, I traditionally have right clicked on it to expose the option that RevoUninstaller can be used and is going to be my choice to trace the installation. By left clicking on RevoUninstaller, I always get notified the requirement of having this use of Revo be done as Administrator, AND the opportunity right then to become Administrator status which allows the ability to move things along to start the traced installation. All pretty standard.. As is frequent though, sometimes during the later uninstall of that traced program using Revo's traced tab (where programs reside if they have been traced by Revo during the installation), after the process of uninstalling is initially done, I am presented by Revo a window where potentially uninstalled parts are remaining. I am too inexperienced to know what I am looking at, and never know with certainty to elect YES...UNINSTALL THERE, TOO." If I were to use the Control Panel Uninstall Programs, I never have to be confronted with this question, but it makes me wonder if Control Panel does as an efficient job as Revo. And why should one care, if Control Panel uninstall is followed by Malwarebytes' cleaner ? Following up the Control Panel uninstall by using Malwarebytes' cleaner, I would think the braintrust at Malwarebytes knows exactly where all the little buggers are, and its cleaner is tailor made to clean pieces out from every nook and cranny AND not have the user confronted with the question of additional places to delete. In the end, the question: Is there enough confidence out there with a traced install by RevoUninstaller to completely uninstall ? This is a quick, one-step process. Or is it best to do Control Panel uninstall that is followed by the Malwarebytes cleaner ? Thank you in advance for your informed opinion.